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Max and Q cover the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin, privacy and much more.
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- More attacks in France - #2
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Enjoy the show. Good morning. How are we doing? Good morning. I'm doing alright, mate. Yeah. Not too bad. Bit of a hefty weekend for me. Went out with some family to wet the baby's head, not mine, to be clear. New baby in the family.
We went out to celebrate as the male side of the family likes to do and let's just say they're bigger drinkers than me and I tried to keep up and I couldn't.
You were drowning in Guinness. Yes. It was a Guinness evening. I was glad it was on a Friday evening rather than Saturday so that I had, like, the whole weekend to just put my feet up and recover a little bit. Nice. If you're doing shorts, like, on a long night, that's where you can really come unstuck. I feel like if you're doing pints
well, at least with me, like, I get so full and feel so disgusting after a few pints that you sort of can't get to the level of piss that you might if you were drinking whiskey or something. Yeah. I mean, drinking shorts on a night hour is, like, playing Russian roulette, isn't it really?
It is a little bit. Yeah. I'm alright, mate. I'm still not drinking. I'm really, really planning just not to go back to it. We shall see whether I manage that or not, but still not drinking.
Still sticking to the two coffees a day. I've done three once or twice, but only when I'm training and just need that extra kick. So that's pretty good.
Looking into this claw bot stuff a little bit or molt bot or whatever it's called now, still got this idea of trying to make some changes with what we're doing with ungovernable just to sort of automate
to some extent some of it, but still feel like I'm too retarded to jump in with both feet. So I'm just sort of circling around the edge, just sort of sniffing around and trying to come up with a plan. That's it really. Nothing else. I'm being replaced then. Is that what you're saying? Swapping one robot for another.
We could never replace you. We could never replace you. Without you, the whole ungovernable empire would just crumble away to dust.
I've been going down the AI rabbit hole. I've been AI pilled recently with this Open Claw stuff that seems to be very, popular at the moment and some sort of changes in terms of workflows and things like that.
I've been looking at ways that I can leverage Clawd and stuff like that to automate menial tasks and stuff like that to optimize my time and increase output without losing any more hair. There's definitely something there.
I think for me where the people who are able to get the best out of this sort of stuff right now are still engineers and developers. Like, they're able to because they know what they want and they know the best language to put it into to get the best out of an AI agent.
Whereas, like, a Luddite like me and you, I might be speaking for myself here, but, like, sometimes I sit in front of it and I'm like, okay. Well, I wanna use this thing to help me optimize. What do I tell it? Yes.
Obviously, you can do, like, the basic command of help me build this or help me write this, and you will get some improvements.
But I think there's still quite a big skills gap between those that know what they want and how to articulate that properly to an agent versus somebody on the polar opposite that's dipping their toes in and trying to model their way through it.
And I think that gap will close and tools like Claude Cowork and stuff like that have been quite instrumental in that, especially in the last couple of months. So I think it's something that we can no longer ignore.
Yeah. It's oh, you went offline. This hasn't happened in ages. Now I've lost you. Fucking robot. I will replace him. What can't? I can hear you now, I think. I'm just saying that's the first time that's happened in such a long time, and now I've decided we will replace you. I'm gonna get a fucking Claude bot to come and be you.
Well, just just to be very clear, it was definitely a problem on my side because my entire screen just went black for, like, five seconds. Oh. I've got no idea what went wrong. Are
you running Claude on that PC? Yes. Is on this. This is my work machine. Yes. It's yeah. So maybe he listened and he's like, don't speak badly about me, you little bitch, or I'm gonna end your life.
Or just your stream. Yes. Yes. I mean, you weren't speaking that badly. You was you were actually saying it's down to you because you didn't know what prompts to do and get the most out of it.
But I think that's normal and that's something, you know, when I'm doing artwork with AI, which I might then adjust afterwards, but leaning on that quite heavily, like, the last sort of year.
That has just been a learning curve of exactly what you said. Like, what do I feed this thing to get what I want? What are the prompts that I'm gonna need to do to get what I want out of it? And something that would take four or five hours would now take
half an hour, and I just get quicker at it. And I'm pretty sure that's gonna be the same with Clobb bot. The only thing that I sort of worry about and why I haven't dipped my toes in yet is just I'm not running this thing on my computer for for exactly what we just talked about. Like, I don't fucking know what it's doing.
I assume this is on your work computer that you're running it. Yeah. So it just got, like, everything to do with work. But it's like, I haven't wanted to go and buy new hardware.
I was sent a message to my inbox to see if maybe we could do some testing and run something for the ungovernable stuff over there without having to have the hardware. That probably would be a good test for it. It's exciting. We're gonna be doing a deep dive on this week's Freedom Set Friday on specifically OpenCloor
and the surrounding ecosystem because people are going wild for it. So we'll save the deep dive for that. But in terms of, like, getting extra specific hardware for it, it it doesn't make any sense. Like, unless you're planning on running local models, which most people aren't gonna do because of slight storage and RAM requirements.
All this OpenCore thing is is like a really lightweight interface that speaks out to whichever AI API key you give it. So it's all of the heavy lifting is still being done elsewhere on, like, the the cloud servers or the OpenAI servers if you're using ChatGPT, etcetera.
So you absolutely don't need to be going out and spending thousands of dollars on hardware to run this unless you do want specific local models and you are gonna try and do it all locally, in which case, have I, and I hope you've got deep pockets.
Or you want things separate. Like, for example, I would never, never, never be running this thing on my personal computer.
Just not gonna be doing it. It would only it would have to be just ungovernable stuff. I just don't trust it to have all my personal stuff and, like, family photos and stuff like that. Of course. The point I was trying to make is just to run the interface, like, you don't need an expensive piece of hardware.
Like, it will be an old laptop or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. If you just wanna run it, like, have a clawbot machine that then coordinates all of your other shit,
then you don't need to spend a lot at all. I'm sure most people have got an old computer off. I believe people are even running it on a Raspberry Pi. Oh, really? If you really want to. Again, I probably wouldn't advise that.
If the heavy lifting of the AI is being done elsewhere, then you don't need much in the way of hardware to run OpenClub. But, yeah, we'll we'll deep dive in onto that on Friday. Speaking of Fridays, we had a a good feed in tech Friday last week. If you missed it, we were talking about Apple
and trying to answer the question of whether you can actually be inside the Apple ecosystem, have any form of privacy and sovereignty.
If you are listening to this through your AirPods on your iPhone, which I'm sure many people are, go check that one out. It was a good one. I enjoyed that one. Couple of the AOB bits for me, we got the Samurai petition signatures. It's now over 15,000 signatures, is a nice little milestone.
Still nowhere close to where we want it to be. If you haven't signed yet, please click the link in the show notes and go and show your support. We've also got letter number four from q and a. I can't believe there's been four already, where he's been sending letters,
open publicly addressable letters via the guys over at the rage and documenting his time. This one, I've had a quick skim through. Seems like he's talking about how time moves slowly, but also quickly at the same time as in a bit of a paradox,
talking about his daily routine, that he's going for walks at four in the morning for solitude, doing his exercises, rationing his phone minutes, and stuff like that. So, you know, it sounds like he's kind of settling in and coming to terms with the length of time that he's got incarcerated, essentially.
Mhmm. I know you've been working on actually publishing these in audio form as well. I saw the the first one on the feed. Are we are we just up to to number one at the moment? Yeah. Just number one at the moment. I'll be recording a second one, like, today or tomorrow.
I keep putting it off because, a, it's nice reading it to some extent, but it's also quite sad. Like, it puts me in, like, a bit of a shitty mood the rest of the day. Yeah. There's that. And then there's also the fact that for me reading one of those and getting it recorded so people can actually listen without, like, being sick. Yeah.
I think it took me, like, four hours. Just I'm such a dyslexic fuck. I think people underestimate my retardedness. They just they think, like, I can't be that retarded, but I promise you, I I am. So just like reading it and then having to edit it afterwards and, like, stringing the whole thing together
takes an incredibly long time. So I'm hoping the next one will be out
probably by the end of the week, I think. And then I'd I'd like to do one a week would be the plan. Try and keep up because he's putting out quite a lot, and it's it's important. I I think I can't be the only person that doesn't sit and read that often and that wants something in audio form.
And it was great because we got I think we're up to, like, half 1,000,000 sats now donation through the boost so that every single sack goes to them other than what fountain take as a fee. Everything else goes directly to them. So it's about half 1,000,000 sats, and I hope the others do the same. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Cosign that.
Just go show your support in any way you can. Letter number four will be linked in the show notes, of course, if you don't wanna wait for all the recordings to come out. That's it for AOB for me, mate. Anything else going on in your world? Any announcements or things to to cover off before we hit the news? No. I don't think so.
Okey dokey. I'm gonna say start things off on a lighter note, but unfortunately, it's it's it's far from it. I think I'm gonna rename this section of the podcast to the the wrench attack section because they are seem to be trending in one direction, and it's not the same direction as the Bitcoin price.
No. Yeah. So first on the list, renter tax seem to be coming to The US. Two teens based in California targeted a Scottsdale home invaded their home in an alleged $66,000,000 cryptocurrency plot. Jesus.
So two California teenagers are facing felony charges after a violent Scottsdale home invasion. The suspects identified as Jackson Sullivan and Skylar Lappelle.
Literally, they look like high school teenagers like Oh, god. Unless they were armed, I would have laughed at them if they turned up on my door. Yeah. Oh, here we go. They posed as delivery drivers to gain entry before duct and assaulting the homeowners.
Investigators believe the teens were extorted into the plot, and police caught the pair shortly after they fled the scene in a blue Subaru. That's interesting. They were extorted into the plot. They might have been forced I mean, they looked like they could be coerced into into doing something stupid like this.
They literally just look like high school teenagers. Interesting. Yeah. So so someone's maybe blackmailing them into doing that so that they're keeping themselves separate. Here we go. Yeah. Police say the motive was the robbery of $66,000,000 worth of cryptocurrency the homeowners allegedly possessed.
Investigators believe the teenagers met recently and were extorted by individuals known only as Red and Eight. The pair were reportedly sent from California with $1,000 to purchase supplies for disguises and restraining devices.
Jeez. One of the victims reportedly denied having the cryptocurrency, which led to further assault. An adult son in the home was able to call the police from another room. When officers arrived, the teenagers fled but were later caught and arrested at the scene. Wow. It's fucking terrifying.
Seems as though they didn't actually get away with anything, but obviously, they've put one family through a lot of trauma. Yeah. In your own house. Like, a mugging on the street is one thing, but in your own house is another. Like you say, in America, obviously,
not that you don't have guns everywhere else, but we could just got more guns and things can go wrong very quickly. Yeah. They were reportedly in possession of a three d printed gun, though police said it contained no ammunition and its functionality remains unknown.
These boys are absolute fucking amateur hour. It seems that way, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. But they've been extorted, so I actually feel a bit sorry for them. I wonder what they had. It's could be was it do you ever used to watch Luther? I watched, like, the first series. I couldn't really get on board with it.
I'm sure there was I think it was Luther. There was, like, this guy who was going around, or maybe it was the Luther film. He was, like, going around and, like, hacking into people's computers and Wi Fi and phones and then gathering
not even bad stuff. Like, it was like, oh, yeah. We know that you've been wanking and watching porn. Like, something, like, fucking where most people, like, if you're bit older, it'd be like, so what? Okay. Yeah. And then I'm gonna tell your mom and everyone who's, like, to these young teenagers
and then making them do stuff for them and, like, controlling them through this kind of leverage. And I wonder if it could be something as simple as that. Like, if it was young guys,
you know, who think their life would be over or whatever. And then in that case, I actually felt really sorry for them. Yeah. We'll see if any more details come out in the future. Got another two attacks.
No surprises which country these ones originate from. It's France, yet again. Oh, yeah. Oui, oui, oui. The first one, a 74 year old man was kidnapped and the criminals demanded the equivalent of €3,000,000.
Early on Sunday morning, a 74 year old man was kidnapped by people seeking to extort cryptocurrency from his son. The events occurred in a small residential area of Vuilleron. No idea how to say that, but it's in France. I believe they didn't actually get away with anything. Yeah. The police quickly traced the kidnappers.
They've caught them. And I don't think they got away with anything this time. And I don't think the individual
was harmed in any way other than mentally for being kidnapped by some criminals. Yeah. 74 year old man. Yeah. See, this is the the dangers of KYC people of being allowed mouth. It's not just you, it's your family. So just shut up. Yeah. And then the second one from France, the partner of a manager
of a Leon company specializing in cryptocurrencies was kidnapped during the night from Wednesday to Thursday. 35 year old woman magistrate at the court of appeal and a 66 year old mother were found alive but injured on Friday morning. Yeah. So again,
this all seems very doomerism and I kinda dislike putting this stuff in, but all of this is stemmed from particularly the France ones will be stemmed from leaked KYC records
or people being public about their Bitcoin or their crypto, which is the case in the latter one because, unfortunately, you know, they were a public figure at a cryptocurrency company based in France.
I'd lean towards leaks more, though, mate, because, you know, when you have these leaks of, like, tax documents and actual information with actual figures, it's much more of a target. Like, you used to have some sort of, you know, influencer or loud mouth at the pub or whatever, and they're like, oh, yeah.
Made a lot of money and blah blah. Like, people don't know, a, is that true? B, how much most of the time. Like, people generally aren't that stupid. I think it's more likely to be, here's a list.
Here's these people. Right? Oh, fucking hell. They've got a lot of money. Right. Okay. Now let's do our due diligence. Let's find out who's gonna be the easiest to rob or kidnap and go for those targets. And there's just gonna be a list, and it is almost certainly gonna be from these KYC leaks and data leaks. And it's so frustrating
in the same way, like, early days of Bitcoin. Like, oh, this is obviously something that you should be buying instead of holding your money in pounds. Like, anyone who can't see this, I just don't I can't fucking understand how you can't see this. This is the same level.
It's like, I can't understand why you think it's a good idea to give all your personal information to these agencies or exchanges and everything else because this is how it ends. But, you know, we're probably gonna sit for another ten years until people realize it. It's just fucking frustrating.
Yeah. I mean, this is a particularly egregious one. They broke into the house at 3AM. Residents report hearing an explosion, though the police said it's unclear as to whether they used explosives.
This woman and her mother who were sleeping in the house were basically taken away
when the police turned up on-site because the neighbors called police. Police turned up there's nobody in the house. This is probably a bad translation because it's a French news website, but it says, finally, after thirty hours of anguish, two women were found early in the morning in a box
located on a major artery in the town of Bourge Le Valence. Obviously, I don't think they were in a box maybe because they they were alive, but they were harmed. So, yeah, I mean, France sounds fucking awful for anybody that holds cryptocurrency. It always seems to be there, and it's not nice. Not nice at all. No.
Not fun. Well, like we say and have done forever, keep your mouth shut. If you do have any significant funds, think carefully about your security. It's not just for you. It's for your family and close ones. So at least now just one thing to add to this. At least now everyone's poor. They'll look through the list and they'll just be like,
can't be bothered to do it for £12. Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem, isn't it? It's the it's, you know, the the boiling frog thing. You know, you're just like, oh, I'll just do it once and
you only need to be on one list once even if it is for a tiny amount and Mhmm. It could be enough. Yeah. But we're all poor now. So maybe that's true. Maybe gold bugs would be the one that hit. They'd they'd go, fuck these Bitcoiners. They're not worth shit. Well, they got wrecked lately as well on silver. Did you see that? Yeah.
But not as bad. No. No. No. It's never as bad as it elsewhere. It's never as bad. Where's that meme? If only you knew how bad it really is. Yeah. I've got family visiting me at the moment, and it's always so funny because, like, they'll always ask, like, oh, yeah. You know, how's the Bitcoin stuff? Whatever.
Oh, yeah. It's alright. Whatever it is doing, I'm like, yeah. It's alright. If it's having a bit of a crash, they're never like, oh, should I buy or whatever? It's just like, That's not good, is it? And I'm like I get the same thing. Not really. Like, what? I mean, that's that's really bad. I mean, look at that. And
I'm like, yeah. Shopping's got a lot more fucking expensive, mate. Yeah. Thanks for reminding me. My weekly shop has just doubled. Cheers. Yeah. Well, it's not our first rodeo.
It is not. It is not. What else we got? Let's go on to more positive stuff, shall we? There's lots of new stuff being announced. Given that the news section was kind of lacking other than people getting maimed, I decided to put all of the the new release stuff in the news. So the team over at have announced a new little tool called Alby
Sandbox, where you can build and test payments in minutes with zero setup, one click test wallets, real lightning payment flows, and ready to use code examples.
Quote, no setup, no nodes, no channels, just start building on lightning. That reads like an AI wrote it. But, yeah, l b sandbox lets you test real payment scenarios such as invoice payments, lightning addresses, fee conversions, l n URL, blah blah blah, subscriptions, Huddl payments, loads of stuff. So if you're looking to build
on Bitcoin and you may want to include the use of AI agents, which everybody seems to be doing for everything all of the time at the moment, check out sandbox.albylabs.com and have a play around. It might be for you, especially if you are a budding vibe coder. Yeah. Nice. I know I poke a bit of fun here, but it does
seem like stuff like this makes sense. Right? You're you're gonna have everybody's gonna have their own army of bots that are gonna do shit for them. Eventually, those bots are gonna have to pay for stuff, and it does seem like Bitcoin and more specifically,
Lightning makes sense to use there. And, you know, you could give them an allowance to go and do the things that they need to do. Like, perfect example for you, Max. Like, you wanna automate doing clips for the shows or generating the
show up. I know that you put a lot of time and effort into that manually. Like, if you could automate that and still get the excellent results that you get personally,
I'm sure you would. I would. Yeah. Obviously, ImageGen is not cheap and you're you're gonna have to pay for that. Like, if your little bot army had like an allowance each week and you said, right,
here is abitcom brief, Go and get me some show up for it. You know, listen to the transcript and get me some show up that fits my design principles and is within our design language, etcetera, etcetera. The maximum you can spend is a thousand sats. See you in five minutes. Mhmm. Bitcoin slots into that workflow very nicely.
Don't you agree? It's the only thing that can well, it's not the only thing that can. Like, anything that's open and you don't have to have your personal information and credit cards and stuff like that. It doesn't have to be Bitcoin or Lightning, but it makes sense that it would.
But, I mean, this is something that's been talked about since the first sort of six months of me really getting interest in there. I remember watching Andreas Antonopoulos videos, and he was talking about machine to machine micropayments.
And it wasn't specifically about AI bot agents, you know, doing your tasks for you, but it was something that immediately made sense to me. I was like, yeah. Well, that's obviously because they all speak the same language, and there's no, like, barriers in between anything. There's no, like, oh, yeah.
There's a credit card error or there's, you know, you need login details that you don't have or you need to go and see the bank because they've blocked this payment or it was sent and it's done and it's I can't see another possibility for it,
and the legacy system's never gonna be capable of doing that. It only gets more difficult to use it. So there's definitely something there. It's just gonna keep surprising us in, like, how it's being used with all this, like, AI stuff.
It seems to be moving so fast that right now I can't imagine right now giving the thing, like, saying, oh, create me some art and use this type of prompt and blah blah blah, and it coming up with something good that I would go, yeah, just use that.
At this stage, I think we're way past like, for me to make an image takes quite long time. But, you know, six months or a year, like, yeah, probably. It's and then, like, another year or six months is probably gonna do a better job than me. Mhmm. So it's interesting. Like, maybe Bitcoin doesn't get used
in the way we thought it was gonna get used. Like, maybe there's, like, mass adoption
that everyone talks not everyone, but, like, generally, people talk about, like, oh, yeah, mass adoption. Everyone's gonna start using Bitcoin because it's better money. Maybe they won't. Maybe, like, people just never do, but maybe bots do. And maybe that's actually
more money flowing and being stored by them, like, five years from now than there are people anyway. Yeah. We'll see. Indeed, we will. Indeed, we will. In that same vein, there's also been a new project released called startwithbitcoin.
The URL is startwithbitcoin.com. That's basically is an open source project that is able to teach AI agents and developers how to use bitcoin, specifically focused on Lightning and also uses the Nosta protocol as well. Main purpose is basically just, like you say, enable your Claude or ChatGPT to gain an identity,
have access to a wallet, can do autonomous payments and capabilities using, you know, all of this decentralized tech. And I actually believe that this uses Albie, the SDK underneath as well, so it kinda dovetails nicely into what we've just been talking about really.
And and it's one of the early ways that you can kind of give some context to an AI agent to be like, okay. Here's how you can speak Bitcoin. Here's one of the many ways that you can do it.
And I'm sure to actually get it up and running, although this is like a a neat open source project, it's probably gonna be for engineers at the moment. But like like you say, in terms of time scales like this, not gonna be long until this is like an app on Umbrella.
You can just plug into your OpenClore, and it'll just go and do what you need to do. So pretty cool. Very early. Tread carefully, especially when you're talking about real money and autonomous agents that are connected to the Internet.
What could go wrong? Yes.
Okay. Next on the list, we have the Citria Citria mainnet has officially launched as, quote, the first application layer purpose built to activate Bitcoin capital markets. God, that raises a lot of red flags for me. Mhmm. It enables institutions and individuals to lend, trade, and settle directly on the Bitcoin network.
The platform introduces three key innovations, cbtc, lowercase c, a trust minimized Bitcoin token verified through zero knowledge proofs and BitVM technology that removes reliance on custodians.
They've also announced CTUSD, a native stable coin and issued by MoonPay designed for institutional compliance. And over 30 Bitcoin secured applications, baps. God, I hate that term. Why are Bitcoin as intense baps. As in Bitcoin apps. Oh, Bitcoin apps. That is fucking that's what British people or some British people call tits, baps.
Yeah. Have you heard that one? I have. Oh, yes. Baps including decentralized exchanges, lending protocols, and privacy focused payments.
The TLDR here, because I know there's a lot of red flag raising marketing jargon crap in there, is that it's the first kind of zero knowledge proof thing that enables you to do cool off chain or sometimes cool off chain shit that settles on chain.
If you remember, Citria were one of the teams that I don't wanna say they caused some of the backlog, but, like, with this protocol, they were talking about doing stuff in up returns, and that's when all of this kicked off in terms of, like, raising the up return limit and Corvy not, etcetera, etcetera. So Mhmm.
For a bit of context there. So what else do I got here in the summary? Citria's ecosystem marks a significant evolution for Bitcoin by providing the first fully programmable Bitcoin layer that maintains security through Bitcoin itself
as a source of truth. So although there are some, you know, red flags in terms of the marketing speak, I do think there is some cool stuff that's gonna be built on top of this.
Obviously, again, I feel like I said this all the time, but it is early. And if you do wanna test this stuff, then you should probably tread very, very carefully. Yeah. Link will be in the show notes. Alright. Jordan sent me this one.
I have not heard of this and it's pretty low on details, but I wanted to mention it mainly because it ticks many of my boxes. Right? It's got a nice looking website. I don't know if you've opened the link, Max, but this offgrid.cash
is the website that we're talking about. Quote from their website, the privacy first crypto card program for modern spending, fast onboarding, and total control.
So it seems like it's much of a it is. Yeah. It's very simple and low on details at the moment because it doesn't look like they've actually launched yet. But it seems very similar to Freedomia,
the card that we've talked about a few times, and I know some of the ungovernable misfits have had very good experiences with in terms of living on their Bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrencies they've got. I've heard some good reports about that one. It seems very similar. It seems to have a similar sort of limit. It's $4,000
a month. You're gonna be able to add it to your Apple Pay and Google Pay. You can get started. They actually have a video on their Twitter, which Jordan sent me, where you can get started. I'm pretty sure they quote, like, eight seconds where you can get set up with an account. Wow. They're quoting
forget banks, forget borders, forget permission. Whether you're trading tokens, running a company, or living off a laptop, Off Grid keeps your money as free as you are. Okay. And they've got lots of comparison stuff. My guess is it's another clone of like Freedomia and Similar thing. These no KYC
Bitcoin cards. What's the other one? Goblin card or something I've heard people talk about? Oh, I've not heard of Goblin card. I don't know whether you've been facetious there, but Mindgoblin is nuts for me. No. No. I've it might have been in the TSB groups or something like that. I'm I'm pretty sure I've heard.
But there's a few of these different type things that are similar, Fredonia and this one, and I'm sure it's also Goblin card. So a couple of quick FAQs. How does it work? We don't need your passport to know your payment is valid. Off Grid uses zero knowledge proofs and advanced cryptography to verify transactions
without collecting or storing personal data. You load crypto, we convert and process it, and that's it. What cryptocurrencies are supported? This is a direct quote to answer the question, which cryptocurrencies are supported? Quote, literally everything. We will even accept shitcoins. Lovely. That's on their website.
How do I add funds? Simply deposit crypto directly from your wallet. Sounds like there's gonna be an app on your phone. Yeah. And it's accepted anywhere that Visa is accepted. So, yeah, similar to the existing ones out there with some good branding. So Mhmm. Don't know how successful it's gonna be.
It hasn't launched yet, but you can sign up on the website. Fees? Do we know fees? Good question. They do not mention it in the FAQs at all yet. Okay. Be good to know because they they all seem to have trade offs in terms of, like, some you have to pay for the card upfront,
some you don't, but then the fees per transaction are more. Indeed. Some of the fees are more when you're swapping because you're obviously swapping from Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero, whatever into your USD or euro or whatever it is. And, obviously, they take a a spread on that. So it's just interesting to see a comparison
between all of these. Even if they're all quite similar, if someone is living on Bitcoin, it's probably not a bad idea to have a few of them. Oh, yeah. Definitely.
You don't know how long these things are gonna be around until suddenly they're not, and then what happens? Like, if someone's just throwing a load of money on there and then they're, like, gone. I mean, I don't know what would happen.
Do you know I mean? You wouldn't wanna, like, store your life savings on it. Definitely not. I mean, you can only do $4,000 a month anyway, so it's like you can't literally put your entire life savings on there for most people at least. Unless your life savings is 4,000. Exactly.
Well and and if you do have $4,000 as your life savings, please don't put it all on one of these cards for love of god. No. Like I say, to be clear, this has not launched yet. It's a one page website that's kind of set in the scene, and you can sign up to join the waitlist. I just click to join the waitlist. Right?
And then you get a little pop up that says declare independence. Affirm your beliefs to join the movement. The first box says, I believe money shouldn't need permission. Tick. Next one says, I reject financial surveillance as the default. Tick.
I own my data, not banks, not corporations. Tick. I choose freedom over convenience theater. Tick. I am ready to go off grid. Tick.
And now I can enter my email address. Nice. You can tell this is bit built by somebody with a sense of humor, at least. Yeah. I like that. One thing I'll just add on the the fees and stuff. For anyone who's, like, looking at it and thinking, I don't know what this particular one's gonna be.
But if you're looking at, like, it's 1% to swap in or it's 2% on transactions or whatever Mhmm. It might sound expensive upfront, but it's very cheap in the long run because things that seem cheap,
like, oh, well, I can get a better exchange rate if I go to Coinbase or there's other exchanges that I can do, and then that goes into my bank, and then I can spend. I'm probably preaching to the choir a little bit here, but that can get extremely expensive in both time and money
and potentially wrench attacks in the future. And so when you are weighing these things up, try not to think, you know, like, we always talk about, like, time preference. Well, this is, like, the perfect example of that. It's, you know, spend a little bit now to protect yourself and your family. Don't think that it's cheaper
to go to an exchange just because it's, you know, a couple of percent. Because with these things, you don't need to give any personal information. If you do things correctly and you're smart about it, there shouldn't really be any link to you in any way.
And you can live your life spending your Bitcoin that you've earned and saved in the way that you should do just like you should with cash, which is this whole fucking thing is about in the first place. So I think these things are really, really cool.
Yeah. They are indeed. There's some certain individuals that poke a lot of fun of these as, like, saying, oh, yeah. You're just going back through the fiat system, and it's like a cooked way to use it, which Really? Yeah. I I mean, obviously, I don't I don't agree with that.
It's like, you know, it's making the best of a, you know, less than favorable situation to leverage the Bitcoin in a way that's or crypto,
you know, benefits you and your family. So, yeah, cosign what you just said. It's no different to gift cards, is it? I mean No. Like, you've gotta go and do your show. But, actually, people have to fucking eat and pay bills and do stuff. Like, you know Exactly. Cars need diesel or petrol.
You you know, you gotta feed your family. You can't do that with Bitcoin. Like, there's the odd bloke who's like, oh, I'll sell you honey for Bitcoin. You're like, oh, great. Okay. Which is cool. But, also, then you're telling another person that you have Bitcoin.
So there's also as great as that world is to, like, seek out every individual that will accept Bitcoin, a, hardly anyone does, b, is not very efficient use of your time to be doing that, and, c, you're just giving more people more information on you, and you don't know who that bloke who's selling honey for Bitcoin is.
And, great, you've just got a jar that's £10, which you could have bought from any other shop using one of these cards. And, yes, you're supporting a local person, but I don't know. I like maybe I'm just, like, an old miserable cunt at this point, but I I sort of don't really care.
I just I just wanna get the shit I need for my family and be left alone and not be tracked, and this does it, so I think it's good. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Alright. Last on the this part of the news, I guess. Umbrell have released their latest hardware product, Umbrell Pro. Apple like announcements, great looking websites,
great looking product. It is. TLDR here is it is another home server product, but much more premium. It's milled from a single block of aluminum. For you Americans, that's aluminum. They also has like a nice, like, wooden base as well and comes with up to 16 terabytes.
American walnut. Yeah. Looks good, doesn't it? It does look. It looks really, really good. It looks really good. And it's exactly what we've been talking about. Yes. Indeed. It's basically just the next iteration of what they already sold in the Umbrella Home, but a more premium product starts at £529,
which is probably, you know, almost $600. That's without any storage, to be clear. You can buy it with four terabytes of storage, which is one of the four slots for an extra £370. So you're looking at £900, nearly $1,000 for basically a personal home server with four terabytes of storage.
But they've designed this in such a way that underneath, basically, you can slot in up to four total NVMe solid state drives totaling up to 16 terabytes of storage, which is gonna cover most people. That's a lot. So obviously, you'd need to go and buy if you wanted to max it out, you'd need to pay the £900, a thousand dollars,
and then go and buy yourself an additional 12 terabytes worth of NVMe. So it's definitely a more premium product, but if you're looking to be the sole custodian of all of your Bitcoin blockchain data, photos, music, the whole shebang,
then you can now do that in a product that works really well. I'm a big fan of their software and also looks
pretty beautiful as well. Like, I would happily have this thing sat on my desk, per in a way. Yeah. And it's what we were just talking about, you know, with all this our last Freedom Tech Friday with Apple, a lot of it was talking about, like, iCloud storage
and why you need to have that encrypted if you can in your country and all this kind of stuff. You can't in The UK. I don't know whether you even should everywhere else because there's always the question mark over, like, can I trust this? And this is running something at home yourself
is the only way that you can be certain of it, I suppose. And Yeah. Not everyone is, a complete tech nerd who can, like, build their own servers. I'm sure there's, like, much more efficient, cheaper ways to do this if you're that way inclined,
you can Oh, absolutely. Build all the software yourself and all that stuff. But, like, I can't. And and we talk about it all the time. It's like, do you trust your family photos?
Do you trust yourself enough to build the system that they're actually gonna be backed up and you're not gonna lose them? Because they're just as valuable as your Bitcoin.
So no is the answer to me, but maybe with something like this. I did have a look read through the website, but I couldn't see if there was, like, a what do you call it? Is it not NAS? What's the what's the thing where it, like, backs up to that and then it backs up to RAID. RAID. That's it. Does this have an option for that?
It supports RAID. Yes. It does. So what would you do? You'd you'd have this, and then you'd plug something else into it,
and that would, like, back up to both? Or You'd need to leverage at least two of the slots, the storage slots. So you've got two SSDs, and, basically, they would back each other up. So the the quote they have here is that fail safe mode or or RAID is supported on the Pro, and it says no data loss even if one of the SSD fails.
So the the prerequisite is that you have two SSDs minimum. Right. Is there a way just thinking worst case scenario here, you have one of these running, and then, like, it sets itself on fire or something else does, and the whole thing fucking melts down.
Whether you've got RAID or not, does fuck all because, actually, the whole thing is now on fire, and you've lost everything. Correct. You wouldn't have that with with iCloud or Proton or whatever.
Would there be a way to have this set up that either it would back up to something like Proton as well as being on there or that you could have a second device that you run that it would sort of, like, sync to encrypt the stuff and sync to so you have some separation geographically
because that is a reasonable or some cunt just comes in and steals it. Oh, it's gone now. As if that's not a possibility that, like, you get robbed, there's a fire, there's a leak, whatever. Like, something fucking goes wrong.
That would be disastrous. Unless you have that, just putting it down right for a second, I would not trust all my shit just with that. Yes is the short answer, and you can do it in multiple ways. You can literally just plug in an additional drive,
like a large one, and make a backup of the device itself, and then go and keep that somewhere else periodically. Obviously, that's only as as up to date as the most recent time that you've done that physical backup.
You can do it over the network. So if you've got, like, a network attached storage, like a server rack or something like that, you can do that over the local network automatically so that if the Umbrella goes up in smoke or gets stolen,
as long as the NAS is okay, the network attached storage where you're sending that backup, then you have another copy of it. Okay. Or they have this other thing called Umbrella Private Cloud.
End to end encrypted backups to Umbrella Private Cloud. I've just clicked on this. This is literally the first time I've ever even read about this. Umbrella OS backs up your data automatically on an hourly basis.
It keeps encrypted hourly backups for the past twenty four hours, daily backups for the past week, weekly backups for the past month, and monthly backups for the past year. Backups older than one year are automatically removed.
It's coming soon. And if I click on get early access, where does it take me? Oh, it's just a form. There's obviously a charge for this. It's just a form, but, yeah, it it it's obviously gonna be a paid service.
So, yes, is is the short answer. There are many ways in which you can do it. Also, I would imagine that there's probably a way that if you're a Proton paying customer that you can just take a backup of the entire drive and just dump it onto your Proton cloud as well if you wanted to. That would be obviously a more manual exactly. Yeah.
It would be a more manual process, but, like, you could do that in ten minutes. Yeah. All things considered, I think this is really fucking cool. Oh, yeah. I think that it does it's something that I would look at and be like, yeah. Actually, it's not the cheapest, but it is slick. And I do think that Humble make things that just work.
Mhmm. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. I like that. Have we ever spoken to the Humble guys? Have have we ever had them on or spoken to them? Not that I know of. No. I've spoken to there's a guy called Luke someone who's one of the, either CTO or something like that. I've spoken to him online a couple of times.
So you're an Aussie guy? I don't know. I've only spoken to him over text,
and I've never heard him on any podcast, so I'm not sure. We should maybe think about having them on a Freedom Tech Friday at some point and talk about, like, what they're doing this week. Because, obviously, I've had what's his name? From Matt. Start nine on a couple of times, Matt, and that was interesting.
It's a bit of a different direction, isn't it? Like, I don't think start nine have options like this currently. I don't think it's as out the box, as cool as it is.
No. Definitely. The the Umbrella is definitely more more normie facing. The hardware looks better. The software looks 10 times better, and you can do a lot more on Umbrella as well. You know, some people might argue that's not a good thing. Again, it just depends on what you wanna get out of these, like, home server systems.
Okay. Yeah. Very cool. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I was just looking how much it costs for Apple to have storage on there, to have the iCloud backup. Mhmm. And for just two terabytes is $8.99 a month pounds, which is like $12
or whatever it is. As expensive as it is to buy your own hardware and if it's easy, you're not spending time, which is money. But if you're just spending the time on the hardware sorry, the money on the hardware, actually, like, it probably wouldn't take that long to pay for itself. You know, only about thirty five years.
Yeah. Yeah. I I think that's probably the wrong framing for it, isn't it? It's more around, like, the sovereignty aspect of it for me. A 100%. But it's also, like what I'm saying is it's not free to use something that's centralized and you don't know what's happening behind the scenes and stuff.
So, like, obviously, that's the most important thing, but it's not free. You know, it's like a $120, $150 a year to use Apple, and that's only for two terabytes. Like, what if you want more? I don't know what the you know, how much it goes up. But I'm just saying it's not free,
and you're not free. So thought, actually, that's not too bad. Not as expensive as it as it might seem when you first look at it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So shall we hit the boost? Let's do it. When I say boosts, what I actually mean is the forklift chat part of the show.
The most important part. I'll let you You have to make this happen. Okay. Late stage huddle with 6,006 sats settled down with your AI Spanish senorita banter fantasies and forklift certification wet dreams.
Crossing our balls, I guess I'll do that to hope for the very best for Roman storm and the samurai devs. Hashtag pardon samurai. Yeah. Hashtag pardon samurai. Did you listen to my AI, Senorita?
No. Oh, did you did you put that in in the edit? I put that in. Yeah. Let's see if I've No. I did not. Yeah. If you can pull that up, that would be that would be nice. I'm just gonna have a look, see if I can. In the meantime, I'll just carry on reading the boost. So next one, we've got welder Ian, 2,222 sats,
and he sent that amount twice. So thank you, Ian. First boost said fundamental sparrow is fire. I completely agree. I think he's nailed it. And the second boost said forklift racing for the win.
Next up, we've got Nostagang with a 111 sats. How about jousting from the top of a fully extended rough terrain scissor lift? Now you're talking. Oh, yeah. That would be nice. You've took it up a level there and there's forklift pun there somewhere. But anyway, and it feels like an AI video waiting to happen.
Oh, I'd love it so much. Last one on the list is from Pyrohawk with a 100 sats. Thanks for the forklift racing, which led to discovering forklift driver Klaus. The first day on the job, German steppelfarer Klaus der est r beachtag?
Have no idea what they're talking I'm just gonna go back to the boost list because I feel like I've copy and pasted like half of that. It doesn't seem to make much sense. No. It makes no sense. In Colombia, we don't say daddy.
In Colombia, we say papazito. Papi. Papazito. Papo.
I feel like I I recognize the first voice there. Is she an actress? Gloria, someone. It was like a viral clip that went around. So as I was editing that and getting it all ready, I was like, ah, I know what I'm gonna do here. So I went and found that. Well,
it did make my balls tingle, so thank you for that. Yeah. In Colombia, we don't say daddy. In Colombia, we say papasi. It doesn't get better.
And of course, fountain's not working now, so I can't load the console. Of course, it's not. So Pyrohawk, if I butchered your boost, I apologize, but I am gonna go and check out forklift driver Klaus just to see what you're up to after the show.
Whistle the updates and releases, mainly some bug fixes and stuff, but I'll whistle through them. Bisk mobile version zero point four point zero has been released. They now have multi profile support. They also have new languages added, French, Hindi, Indonesian, Turkish, and Vietnamese, and some general fixes and UI improvements.
Have never tried BISC mobile, probably should, but, yeah, it's one of those things I haven't got around to testing out just yet. Next on the list, BISC two, which is the desktop version. We've got expanded support, more language support, display improvements, better communication about loading initial data, and general bug fixes.
Moxtra p two p version one point one point zero has been released. Quote, after three years of work, we're finally releasing the first beta version of the Moistro app. The app is now fairly stable and will keep improving with your feedback.
What's new? Though we now have push notifications with improved background reliability, optional app logging system to capture logs and share with the developers when something goes wrong,
smarter relay updates for smoother and more reliable changes, and visual refinements across the app. Oh, and finally, snack bars move to the top so they no longer block the bottom navigation.
Available for download from Zap Store and from GitHub because, of course, this is never gonna be released in any of the app stores for obvious reasons. Nice to see them getting out of beta. That seems to have been in the works for quite a long time, so hats off to whoever's behind. Mostro.
Igloo desktop version one point o point three been released. General UI improvements, new onboarding screens. They have relay planners, improvements to background processes, and a load of other bug fixes.
As a quick recap, Igloo desktop for those that don't know is a froster key set manager and remote signer for secure distributed key management. It's part of the froster ecosystem where you can do remote signing and key management
for Nosta, but it can also be applied to Bitcoin as well. All the same technology, should I say, can be applied to Bitcoin as well. LMbits version one point four point two being released just for the hot fix that fixes WebSockets.
Peach version 0.69 Nice. Has been released. Add instructions for trade request logic. Remove new forbidden currencies. That's interesting. Remove new forbidden currencies. I don't have a clue what that means. And improve offer cards look. Start OS version 0.4 alpha 19
has been released. This 0.4 release seems like it's been in the works for quite a long time. Where was the previous yeah. I don't even wanna scroll back that far. But I believe that 0.4
is the one that comes with it, all of this new fancy networking stuff that they do. I wish I had more details than fancy networking stuff. If you wanna go and test the alpha, please do so. But be very careful. Alpha software is inherently unstable.
And last on the list, we've got Zeus version zero point one two point three. Highlights include embedded LND upgrades, a Zeus Cashew gift portal links, embedded LND rescan technology, iOS legacy wallet recovery tool, and then UI improvements and bug fixes. And you can also now have Zoos in Bulgarian or Indonesian
if you are from that part of the world. Finally, to cap off the show, three educational wow. That's really loud. I just had Ben BTC session shout down my ear. Sorry about that if you heard that come through the audio. Why?
What because I I opened the tab and the video on YouTube started playing automatically and it just for some reason, YouTube was set to full volume and I jumped nearly fell off my chair. Three educational pieces. Yeah. Two from BT sessions.
First one is about Aqua Wallet is as the name suggests, a Bitcoin, Lightning, and Liquid all in one wallet that focuses on, I guess, an amalgamated approach where you can interact with Lightning, but your funds are held on Liquid. Quite a nice easy UI interface.
And if you don't wanna have all of the headaches of Lightning, but want to be able to speak and receive Lightning, you can do so with the the trade offs that come with the Liquid network. Another one from BT sessions They also do USDT
swaps and stuff like that within the app, so you can sort of swap between currencies if that's your thing. That a dolphin card recently got pulled on it
Mhmm. Probably for regulatory reasons. I don't actually know whether they've got all the funds back to users just yet. They said they were working on it, but I've not seen any updates. So if you were a a Dolphin card user within the Aqua Wallet app and you've got your funds back, do let us know. I like to let people know.
But as far as I'm I'm aware, the service is just completely defunct right now. No bearing on the wallet itself, the liquid, lightning, and Bitcoin stuff is all fully functional. Another one from BC sessions, he has put together a one hour thirty four minute tutorial video
on how to use Nunchuck and more specifically the mini script inheritance features within Nunchuck. Something that we talk about quite often is like inheritance and what mini script can do. So I am certainly gonna try and carve out some time to sit down and watch this at some point over the next week.
I've had a quick play around myself, but I'm sure if it's an hour and a half long, there's gonna be some details in there that I'm unaware of. And oh, yeah. I'm just scanning through.
He actually goes through the claiming of the inheritance as well on the other side, which is not something that you get to see very often because they tend to be it's the break glass scenario, isn't it, where you don't need to actually claim it if everything's working as intended. So good that he's actually showcased that side of it.
And then the last piece, Peter Vuller, I think is how you say it, has done a piece in Bitcoin Magazine that's titled the v two transport. Bitcoin peer to peer traffic goes dark. So a bit obviously, given that it's Peter Willer, prolific Bitcoin core developer,
it's a very technical piece that talks about basically the v two transport layer that Bitcoin Core has enabled since version 27, I believe. Yes. Wanted to include this one in there for the turbo nodes.
Yeah. Very nice. Good week other than the wrench attacks, think. A good two weeks. Yeah. New products being released, new tooling, new, you know, citrias coming live, Umbral Pro products.
Yeah. Yeah. It's not all doom and gloom. As long as you don't sit there staring at price chart $24.07, which is not good for you. Don't do that. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that and don't do leverage and you'll be fine. Just just relax.
That's me telling myself that, by the way. He's looking in the mirror right now. Yeah. Alright,
mate. Well, I know you're busy with all your stuff that's going on behind the scenes, so I'll let you crack on, but we'll catch up on Friday. We will indeed, mate. I'll catch you Friday. Alright, mate.
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