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Welcome back to another episode of Bitcoin Monthly. It was really good to have Antimus back with us this month, and we covered so many different interesting topics. I really enjoyed it, and I hope you enjoy listening.

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Thanks to everyone who's been supporting the show. Thank you to the sponsors, and I hope you enjoy it. - We're all back. This is nice. We missed you, Antomos. (laughing) - You're shooting fuck.

(laughing) - Oh, man, you should've seen my hair the last couple of months. - Oh. - All colorful. - Oh, really? - Green, orange. - Pissings. - Did the whole-- - Did you get a full book? - Hell yeah, I was out there.

I was out there. I bought every coin under the sun. Yeah, it's great. - Very nice jogging with doge. - Did you manage to keep your dick and balls, or have they gone as well? (laughing) - Grown 'em back, man.

- Okay. - I'll keep you posted. - Silver line into your despicable behavior is that clearly a lot of people care about you 'cause I had a few genuinely concerned DMs and get, "Oh, it's a real shame of Antomos."

(laughing) - Really? - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - So you are loved, man. - Well, okay, well, I really appreciate that, although I am a bit concerned that people actually believe that, but I'll take that as a compliment that people have been pumped.

- It was all Americans, though, I think, wasn't it? (laughing) - Yeah, I guess sometimes the humor can be lost across the Atlantic, aren't it? - Yes, I think so. But it was quite sweet. A few people reached out to me as well, so there you are.

So we got a long list this month. But before we jump onto that, seeing as you never respond to any of my messages anymore, Antomos, 'cause you're too big for it, your cold showers that I asked you about, are you still doing them?

- You asked me about cold showers? - Yeah, I sent you loads of messages, private messages, and you just ignored me. - Fuck, where am I now? - Too busy shit going in. (laughing) - Yeah, exactly.

- Well, yeah, I kind of lost it for the last couple of months, 'cause it is actually true. I started about, yeah, mid-April again, 'cause I was pretty sick at the beginning of February, and that threw me out.

Yeah, and then jumping in back when it was like the end of February, I was pretty brutal, so that took me a while again to get back in. But now, yeah, it's from the middle of mid of April.

Yeah, I'm back in, but it's tough. I mean, it's getting a bit warmer. It's quite clear towards the summer now. - Did you go straight in cold? 'Cause that's what I did, I read that Wim Hof book, and I was like, fuck, this is brilliant.

And then our shower doesn't work. We have no hot showers, we haven't done for a year. I was like, oh, well, what I'll do is, I'll just jump in straight into the cold, and it was fucking brutal.

I can't believe that anyone can do that for more than sort of 30 seconds to a minute. I was in agony. - Yeah, what I usually do, I mean, I wouldn't recommend this for anyone who's just starting out, but doing the Wim Hof breathing beforehand is great, 'cause that conditions you a bit for the cold, and you've got that breathing pattern in,

so it's a lot easier to focus on your breathing and to tolerate the cold. What I do is that I actually do the breathing in the shower before turning on the water, so I'm actually already standing underneath the shower, and then do the breathing.

So I only do two rounds, and I've been doing this for quite a while, so I know how far I can go so that I don't just fall over in the shower, so definitely don't do this if you're just starting out if anyone's listening to this.

This is not any advice that I truly pass on. So at some point, if you know how far you can go, that's great, because then you're standing right underneath the shower, and you do the breathing, and then once you're finished with the two rounds, you hold your breath, and then you're doing the tension hold for 10, 15 seconds or something,

and then you just turn the shower full on cold and turn it up, and then you're off. And that's cool, 'cause then there's all in one go, kind of, and you're not first lying down, like in bed, or on the couch, or something doing the breathing, and then you have to go into the shower, get dressed, and all that kind of stuff.

So that's quite nice, but yeah. Otherwise, it always knows you could do it sitting as well, just like if you're showering in the bathtub anywhere, or if you just sit down on the toilet or something, and do the breathing there, so that it's not too dangerous, so you don't know, like, fall over,

and then get up and get straight to the shower. That's, like, if you can shorten the time between the two, that's, like, the best. - Top tips, Q&A, you into this cold shower stuff? - Fuck that.

(laughing) - Enough said, enough said. - That's all I have to say on the matter. - Yeah. - One other thing, just to mention, I mean, I'm not really affected by this, 'cause that's not my kind of goals anyway, but for people who, like, do, like, hypertrophy training, like, wanna, like, really bulk up,

apparently having cold shower, or, like, cold exposure after the-- - Straight after training. - Exactly, exactly, that's supposed to not be too good, so you maybe wanna do, like, your weight lifting, if you're, like, really pushing, then the evenings, or shower beforehand, that's what other people do as well,

just, like, a pumped up with a couch, cold shower, and then do your weight lifting after. - Top tips, right, Bitcoin stuff? - Oh, yeah, that's why we, it wasn't-- (laughing) - Go on on to me, so you can, like, while we, technically, we put the list together at the same time, and dropped it into the chat today,

so it's kind of a joint effort, but you've kindly, collectively, put it all together, so I'll let you lead the way, and we can all jump in, and ask stupid questions. - That was pretty sweet telepathy there this morning, that was great.

All right, yeah, to start off, we've got BISC, it's been quite a while since they've came out with the release, this is the 1.9.10, and it's a whole bunch of improvements, I mean, there's nothing that really stuck out to me in the release notes, but there's a whole bunch of different stuff to just improve speed,

and usability, and reliability, and stuff like that. - I haven't used BISC for quite a while, actually, has anybody used it in the last couple of months, keen to know how it's getting on with the sustained tour DDOS attack, whether it's still functioning, okay?

- I haven't used it for a while, I had this constant error where it wouldn't accept me, you know, you had to do like your first small trade, and then you got like verified effectively. - Yep.

- It just couldn't get verified, no matter how many trades I did or what I did, and I gave up in the end, but I used it for a long time before that, and really rated it, but yeah, I just gave up on that 'cause it pissed me off.

I've not seen any chatter to say it's completely borked 'cause of tour, so clearly whatever they've been doing in terms of updates and patches and whatnot has been doing the trick, so. - Yeah, I mean, I was definitely using it quite a lot last year, and then also this year up to like, February sometime, and that was actually fine,

that wasn't too bad, we had like every now and again, there was a failed trade, but usually, it was always like every now and again, when you restarted, it had like some connection issues, but if you actually had it running most of the time on a desktop or something, it wasn't an issue at all, so.

- So you found it got really hot, like my laptop would feel like it was gonna melt, and the fans would kick in hard whenever I ran it. - No. - And never believed it running. - No, that was actually fine, I didn't have, even on my laptop, and then also on my desktop, both was fine, the only one weird thing is,

and I still to this day, don't know what the issue is, on my laptop, when I do backups, it like redoes every single backup instance that I've ever done, so like the backup files, or like folder, is like 35 gigs large or something.

(laughing) - It takes a fucking ages, so I don't know what that issue is, but there we go. - Yeah, next on the list is Bitcoiner.guide, got a new facelift there. - It's looking swanky. - Oh yeah.

- Yeah, so long overdue, since bit of backstory, obviously for those that don't know, Bitcoiner.guide is my website, educational, Bitcoin-focused website, started building that in kind of 2020, I guess, in its first format.

Obviously started working at Foundation almost two years ago now, which was super, super busy in the back end of 2021. So I've not been able to focus much on it, to be honest, working at a startup is hard work as Max and Artemis, both know them, always moaning, saying fucking hell, sorry lads, I'm a bit busy.

- I'm going for 'em. - So yeah, it's not hard much love. It's had the odd period, a good update, but I thought enough's enough. I wanna start getting back to posting more regularly about stuff that's not necessarily linked to Foundation.

And so I thought, first step would be to give the site a visual revamp, put a new theme on it, and to give myself a bit of a kick up the ass to kind of keep it all up to date. I also consolidated it all under a single GitHub repository because the way that I'd kind of hacked it together previously was, well, it was a hack, basically.

I learned as I go, and it's not very conducive to a kind of well-functioning machine, if you like. So it became a little bit of a headache to kind of keep up to date, and it became even more difficult for people, external people if they wanted to contribute via translations or updates or anything like that.

Like, everything was fragmented. Some of it was local, some of it was in GitHub, and it was all out of date, and yeah, it was just a bit of a mess. So brought it all together, polished it up, added a few new features.

So I've got some curated lists now. So if you like, the first thing you'll see is like three big buttons that says beginner, intermediate or advanced, that'll kind of hold your hand down some curated content based on, you know, if you're whichever one of those three sections that you kind of fall into, added a search feature,

which was much needed because there's a lot of stuff on there, and a lot of it kind of, you wouldn't know it was there unless you kind of started really poking around. And the last edition, I'm sorry, two more, actually, added a noster live chat widget in there.

I know we're going to be covering noster later, so I won't go too much into that. But basically, if you're really in a pinch, you can go on there and kind of DM me via noster. You don't even need a noster account to kind of get in touch.

So if you are struggling, you can DM me that way. I will give that a little bit of an asterisk to say that if it starts getting spammed, I'm going to turn it off because I'm one guy and I get a lot of DMs already.

And the last one, the one I'm most excited about is the edition of a vote page where, again, this is kind of, I created this vote page for two reasons. First and foremost, to hold myself accountable, to make sure that I'm pumping content out a semi-regular basis and the other one was to kind of get people involved.

So what I'm going to do once a month is pick three topics or projects that I personally would like to write about. And then I'll put them up. I've created like a little bit of a crowdfunding thing on my busy pace over here at home.

Expose that on the site. If you just go to slash vote, you can vote for which of the three you want to see me write about next. So this month, let's just kick it all off. We've got Stack Wallet.

I know you had Diego on the podcast, which was fantastic a couple of weeks ago, Mark. So everybody needs to go check that out. We've also got Robosatz and we've got Bisk. Very, very tight at the moment between Robosatz.

Sorry, no, it's not Bisk, I'm talking rubbish. I need another coffee. It's Robosatz and Phoenix. So Phoenix Robosatz and Stack Wallet. And you can go on and vote as little as once up. And at the end of the two weeks, whichever project that's got the most votes, gets the next guide written.

And then we'll just rinse and repeat that. And again, that's another roundabout way to give me a kick up the arse to keep bumping out content. So yeah, excited about that. And yeah, go and check it out and get involved.

It looks really good, mate. I also like just having it all in one place because that used to drive me mad. I was like, oh, what was there? I was trying to remember you had a million different sides.

And I could never keep on top of it. This is much, much slicker. The only issue I have with the site is no pod chilling. So how much do I have to put in your back pocket for this pod to be chilled on there?

Well, yeah, you obviously haven't clicked around enough, have you? Obviously not. So if you go to Uber in the top right-hand corner, there's a page called Podcasts. And the very first thing you'll see is I'm going to bore misfits Bitcoin monthly.

OK. All right. I can't see it because I'm too dumb to work this out. Other about noster are podcasts. Here we are. OK, I'll let you off. That's fine. You could have got some stats there, though.

I was willing to pay. I was like, what's this fee? I'll be happy to take a fee to put podcasts on the top list instead of hiding it under the other if you want to. That's fine. Well, I'll just see see me later.

I'll buy you a few beers if you ever turn up. We've been trying to get that in the diary for a year now. There we go. Job done. One other thing I wanted to mention with the site, if there's anyone out there who wants-- has some specific questions or wants some more one-on-one time.

Q&A also offers the one-on-one support service. And that's really amazing. I mean, obviously, we know each other. We've been in contact for ages, but for anyone out there who's looking for this, I can definitely recommend jumping in there.

And it's pay for the value you get. So it's amazing. Yeah, they're good fun there, actually. Do really, really enjoy them. I don't do a lot of them, mainly just due to time constraints. But it's super cool getting to meet new people and help them work through specific problems with wallets or nodes or just helping people pan out there.

They're security protocols because, obviously, everybody's in different situations. And there's tons and tons of good information all over the internet, not just on my site, but to get a specific answer for your specific situation, sometimes, can be quite difficult.

So yeah, do offer that type of service. But again, caveat, I'm just one guy that's very, very busy. So just getting in touch and we can work out a time together that suits. All right, so next on the list is green Android 4.0.0, so it's a major release.

New UX, so complete overhaul there. Should be pretty slick from the images I've seen. I don't use it personally, so I haven't actually played within the app. But from what I've seen, it's pretty nice.

Yeah, blockchain was always a pretty good UI anyway. I mean, they did make some questionable decisions with the whole remote server. Like, you have to have a multi-sig wallet. But they've moved away from that since.

And then this main release is kind of like a UI update to polish that even further. So again, whole man's up. Haven't tried it yet. But if their previous UI is anything to go by, if they've put more work into it, I'm sure it's going to be one of the leading options out there.

The other thing that was interesting from that blog post, which is completely unsolicited by us at Foundation, is that they mentioned that they're going to be adding more hardware wallet support.

Passport was mentioned as well. So really, really looking forward to that. It's always good to see other manufacturers and other wallet producers wanting to interoperate with other manufacturers as well.

So the end result is that the end user is a winner. So excited about that. And no times, girls, obviously, the first we learned about it was on the blog post. But yeah, excited to see how that pans out this year.

And speaking of more options for users, this was a long time coming. But a blue wallet, V6.4.1, finally introducing BIP 47 payment codes. That's pretty sweet. I've been calling for this rages.

I feel like we need a sound effect board for things like this. Yeah, we do. I should get one. John's got the sound. I'm just going to say, yeah, we need to get John's, yeah. Yeah, I'm too tight for it.

They're not cheap, but I'll start saving up, maybe in a couple of months. There we go. Yeah, so this is the full deal. I mean, obviously it's a new feature, so tread carefully. But yeah, at the moment, it's all hidden behind, like the advanced developer kind of lock.

So to activate it, you want to tap 10 times on display in wallets list on the wallet details screen. And then don't forget to press save. It took me about an hour to realize that I was doing the tap thing.

I could see the payment code pop up, and then I'd close the app and go back in. And it wasn't there again. I'm like, ah, something's broken. And then so I posted it on Twitter, and then the official wallet account decided to try and dunk on me by basically calling on a DM and not pressing save.

So well-deserved, well-deserved. But yeah, the only other caveat with this is, and I'd love to see it, this is the second wallet now where we've got bit 47 support on iOS, or the other one being stack wallet, is that blue wallet is received only at the moment.

So once you've kind of received into the payment codes, then there's no send support yet. So worth bearing in mind, I don't know if there's any active development on the send side of things just yet.

Would love to see if there is. But either way, it's a great step in the right direction. And shout out to Abi Shambi. I hope I said that right. It was the guy that kind of led this. Yeah, it's really good to see.

I like to think that that's probably the pressure from stack, because it's been such a long time, and then they happen in quick succession. But yeah, it's good for everyone to have that in.

What do you think, lads? We got our hopes up that they'll implement test net. No. Yeah. OK. I sort of put that out there. OK. I think that one's dead in the water. And just to be clear as well, if you use Blue Wallet to receive to a payment code, those UTXOs are not stuck.

You can't spend them. What I meant earlier is that you can't pay to a payment code. So you couldn't be Blue Wallet to pay to a Samurai or Sparrow pay well at paying him or a 47 payment code.

But you can't start. Yeah. It's not like a-- yes, you can on stack. It's not like a black hole where you can only use it to receive. You can still spend them just not to another payment. OK.

Cool. I've had a player rant not that it's in the list, but I've had a player round with Stack after doing that interview. I'm really impressed with it. I was using the Stack Duo 1. And it's really, really slick and simple to use.

I think it's going to be for onboarding new to iOS. I think that's going to be my new show. Yes, same. Very, very promising project. Diego, I really love the way that Diego spoke when you interviewed him a couple of weeks ago, especially around the design principles and things, which is obviously

something that we at Foundation hold dear to our heart as well. So a lot of that resonated with us internally. You can see that he's really got his head screwed on and he's not bothered about all the shade that's been thrown out at the project for all the usual shit kind of bullshit.

Really great design wallet. I actually draw a lot of similarities between Blue Wallet and Stack in terms of the overall layout. And I hope Diego doesn't take offense at that. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.

But the whole kind of card structure at the top and then the transactions underneath, I think it's worked really well. Yeah, it's really slick. So moving on, we've got cold card V5.1.2 support all SIGHASH types.

So this is definitely something to be careful about. I mean, obviously, people will only be using this if you kind of really know what you're doing. But SIGHASH or SIGHASH flags, basically a way to partially or assign a certain portion of a transaction.

And other parts of the transaction can be modified afterwards. So this is especially for, like, if you're doing collaborative transactions with multiple parties and you're contributing UTXO and you're also getting an output.

At the end of the day, what you are interested in is that you get the correct output and everything else in the transaction doesn't really matter to you. So that would be what you'd be signing and then the others would be signing other portions and so on.

So you can do pretty complicated transactions with this. This is definitely for multi-party transactions. And this is now fully supported by cold card. So if anyone is relying on this kind of stuff or wants to try this out, you can do that now with cold card.

But it's definitely not like a standard feature at the moment. Yeah, just generally in Bitcoin. Then also seed XOR, now supported also for 12 and 18 word mnemonics. All right, so LMBITS V0.10.4 is out.

Actually, maybe you can help me out with this, but I don't really understand their version, like, numbering for their different releases. Before that was V0.10.0. And then they just jumped to 10.4.

Anyway, the minor release to 10.0 pushed out all of their extensions, I think they call it. So nothing was pre-installed. So you only get, like, the base LMBITS. And then you can install all the different extensions that you want.

But I think beforehand it came out with all the, like, a certain set of default extensions to use. We played around with it at all. I have, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, this update was lots of, like, bug fixes and kind of quality of life improvements.

The thing with the extension, I think the way I understand it is that previously they were all packaged and installed. And you just enabled, you just turned on the ones you want. Whereas now you just get the basic and then you have to install everything and then enable it.

Sorry, each one by case, by case, depending on whether you want them. So I think it just makes everything a bit more lightweight so that you're only kind of installing the stuff that you want or need, which obviously is a good improvement.

And I'm sure, especially for those kind of running that on a Raspberry Pi or something, or a small single-book computer, this will make things a little bit easier to kind of run and to manage.

But absolute powerhouse of a team behind the LMBITS, they've been going gung-ho at the whole Noster space as well. There's a lot of their recent extensions have been Noster-based, like Marketplace, NIP5 identifiers, et cetera, et cetera.

So they clearly targeted that sort of market, which is good to see. The other thing I noticed, which is not kind of specific to the release, Antimus mentioned, but they've also launched the software as a service, the solution, I guess, where you can kind of just go to lmbits.com and spin up your own LMBITS instance.

Obviously it's hosted by them on some server somewhere and you can kind of pay, I think you can pay by the hour. I think it's 70 SAP to put hour, which works out to like 1600 SAP today. So if you wanted to kind of go on and play around and see if this is something that you want to kind of mess

around with, you can do that at a little to no cost and they'll kind of spin it all up for you in the background. And so that you don't have to worry as much. Obviously there's a little bit of trust involved because if it's not your hardware or not your personal private server, then there's a little bit of trust there

that they're going to keep that into the running for, however long it is that you paid for it. But for somebody that kind of wants to, doesn't want to have to kind of do all the whole networking, work around and VPNs and all that sort of stuff to protect your IP address, et cetera, then this could be a good option,

especially if you want public facing services like stores or whatnot. - It's not exactly expensive. - No, not at all, not at all. - It's very reasonable. Isn't it Black Coffee who's fucking around with LMBITS quite a lot now as well?

- Absolutely, yep. - Yeah, another big update was Mempool V2.5.0. And that was something that they'd been teasing for quite a while as well was Lightning Network Explorer. So there's quite a few, this is pretty sweet for anyone who hasn't seen this yet.

They've got like a map of the world there with all the different node connections or at least the publicly facing ones. So it's pretty cool. You can scroll around and zoom in and stuff. That's pretty nice.

And then a whole bunch of different metrics and data to a few different activities going on on the Lightning Network. - So I think, yeah, the cool bit here is that obviously the Lightning Network Explorer on actualmempool.space, the website has been out for like probably six months or at least this releases that downstream

so that all of the popular node packages that have mempool.space in store can now update to 2.5 so that you can have your own Lightning Network Explorer so that you don't have to kind of rely on the public facing one run by the mempool.space team.

So yeah, it should be pretty interesting. I'm also interested to see how Rajby Pies cope with running that 'cause I'd imagine it's probably not a small task to kind of calculate all of that network graph 'cause there's a lot going on there.

- Absolutely. It's also just pretty crazy to just like flick through here and see like the different liquidity levels and stuff from the different providers and large nodes. So definitely anyone who hasn't checked this out, it's pretty great to just take half an hour and click through this and just explore a bit pretty nice.

- Then Passport, there's new beta out for the upcoming release, is that correct? - Indeed, yeah. So, must stress this is at the time of recording at least, this is beta testing only, free to anybody to download, but if you're not interested in kind of testing at the beta software, give it a couple of weeks

and this will be in main release. But what I'm about to talk about will all be included in the main release so it makes sense to kind of cover it now. Yeah, this is probably the biggest software release we've ever done for Passport.

Lots of super cool stuff that I know a lot of people have been waiting for for quite some time. The first one would be that the new Passport menu interface is being backported to the Founder's Edition as well.

So, if you are one of the lucky thousand people that got their hands on one of the initial devices, then you're gonna be benefiting from all the new features and all the new menu integration that the BatchTube or the new Passport users have had while since release, basically.

So, that's been a big, big task to kind of port that back to the old device. So, yeah, looking forward to getting that back to the Founder's Edition or the Passport OG, should we say. Next, we added support for sending to pay to taproot addresses.

So, you can now pay to any wallet address that supports taproot. So, I know moon wallet defaults to that now and, you know, we're heading towards a place where a lot more types of wallets are gonna be integrating that as well.

So, yeah, you can now do that from Passport and also within Envoy when this is released. We've also added what we're calling the key manager. So, this is one of the extensions for enabling advanced functionalities.

Within that key manager, you've got Bip85, so you can derive child seeds from your master seed. They can be 12 or 24 words in length. So, the way that that would work is that you obviously have your Passport set up and you'd have your master seed that you have backed up to a micro SD card and encrypted fashion, stamped into steel,

written down on paper, however you choose to back that up. With this new update, using the key manager, you can then deterministically derive any number of child seeds from that that you can use to populate literally any Bip39 compatible wallet.

So, it could be your samurai wallet, it could be your Envoy wallet, it could be your blue wallet, it could be another hardware wallet for your son, daughter, mum, dad, whoever it is, saving the knowledge that if any of those child seeds, whoever you give them to or wherever you put them, if they're not backed up at all,

or you need access to Passport to be able to redrive those seeds as well. So, it's kind of like one master backup to kind of manage any, to rule them all, yeah, exactly. So, this feature is huge, like it's been, especially for people who are the Bitcoiner of the family or the friendship group, it just makes like Uncle Jimmy people

and kind of getting people started so much more, so much easier because we know that people, when they're starting out, are terrible with backups. So, you can kind of have your friends and family back and it means that you don't have to have 10 or 15 different steel plates knocking around

with labels on them saying, right, this is my mum's, this is my dad's, this is my sister's, et cetera, like it's all stored securely within Passport on the secure element. - Putting Antimus out of business here, mate.

- Well, interestingly, probably not, we're actually gonna be helping him because as part of the key manager, and thank you for that, it's almost as if we planned that, probably if we didn't.

(laughing) 'Cause I probably was gonna forget that. When you're exporting these child seeds, you can export them as seed words. So, Passport will just show them on screen. You can export them as a seed QR, which Antimus makes fancy blades for, or compact seed QR.

So, you can have Passport display either of those types of QR codes with the seed words encoded in it, so that you can scan that directly with any compatible wallet. So, boxing jade or seed sign, obviously, it was their standard that they created, so that you don't even need to be writing stuff down.

You can just kind of scan it in and it just goes directly from Passport to whichever one of those wallets that you'll use it. Antimus, if I'm missing any more in terms of wallets that support CQR, is it, oh, Inspector DIY, I'm sure they do as well.

- Exactly, Inspector DIY, and also Sparrow Wallet also does so if you're using it on like a dedicated laptop or something like that, you can use your webcam to scan them in as well. - So, here's a cool flow.

You could use Passport to generate a child seed, 12 word child seed to go into Sparrow Wallet via a simple QR code scan to create a hot wallet in Sparrow that you can use to do your Whirlpool coin joining.

- Oh, yeah. - That's nice. - There you go. - Do you want to think it's really nice as well, even if you're not managing all like friends and family's Bitcoin? Just if you play around with different stuff all the time, you end up with, I've got fucking, I don't even know, 20 different wallets and all written down

and stamped and everything else. Just having this standard is like a must, surely going forward. If there's no downside to it, I can't see why everyone shouldn't be switching to that. - Yeah, agree.

Yeah, it's an absolute game change and probably, well, not probably, like it was the most requested Passport feature for probably since foundation began. So this is a big one. Like, and the integration with CQR as well, like obviously we love what the seed tiny team have done there and it's so much quicker

than just kind of writing down 12 words and then typing them into your blue wallet or your Samurai wallet, like if we can get this CQR format more widely adopted, like populated wallets via a simple scan is just a game changer versus typing in words.

- Also, surely there's less trust if you're creating these on an offline device rather than trusting all these different random wallets like on different phones and computers and stuff when you're doing it, is there an argument that it's more secure that way as well?

- Yeah, well, you're kind of, I guess, putting your, there's two ways to look at it. Like, yes, you're reducing your threat modeling. - Are you putting all your external answers to it? - Yeah, yeah.

But again, Passport firmware is completely open source. We use multiple different sources of randomness or entropy. So we're tried and tested. In fact, funny, you should mention that we saw, was it trust wallet?

The web browser last couple of weeks. They're basically like, they were using terrible forms of randomness and their wallets were getting swept, I think. Obviously, web wallets are a terrible idea and nobody should be using them.

But a perfect example of what you were getting at there, Max, I guess, that, you know, if you can use that your single source of truth being Passport to kind of generate all of these, knowing full well that it's completely offline and abiding by the standards that have been set up for years.

So, yeah, super exciting. The other part of the key manager as well is that you can generate noster keys. Again, using a similar sort of scheme, like BIP-85, where you can generate multiple of them, but obviously it's defined by one of the noster nips, as they're called, input implementation possibilities, I think they're called.

So that you can generate multiple different noster identities and have them all backed up on Passport. I know that that's fairly niche and, you know, there is a bit of a caveat with this one is that, obviously, you're generating your noster keys on Passport, which is obviously super secure, offline,

et cetera, but then the way that noster works right now is that most people are gonna paste that noster private key that's generated on an offline device into an online device, like a phone or a web browser.

That's an unsolved problem right now, but we've given users that functionality that they can generate multiple and just have them all backed up on Passport. There is further development of thought that kind of look to remove the need to be able to just be pasted in noster private keys everywhere to be able to have an account.

But as and when that is implemented with rest assured that we'll be updating Passport to suit, but right now you were just allowing that you can kind of generate them and export them via QR code.

So one of the Android clients on noster called Amethyst, which is my go-to client, as soon as we released this feature or as a beta, the kind of ability to show a QR code contained in your noster private key.

We've put up a bounty for the Amethyst project and other open source project to be able to import this via a QR code so that we didn't have to do any copy paste and whatnot or manually type it, which would have been horrendous.

And a name that goes by GreenArt73, shout out Paynims, he took the bounty, did a pull request to Amethyst, and then literally within 24 hours you could do this straight from Passport. So Passport shows you QR code, showing you on noster private key, scan it with your phone, directly imported, job done.

Again, I say every single month, but I just love free and open source software because you can get to do things like that. And GreenArt's earned a small sat bounty for it as well. - Man, that's sweet.

On that topic, there was one question I had. I remember, I don't know exactly who it was I was speaking to, but with this key management with noster, especially if you're having like the key derived on an offline device and you don't actually wanna have it hot, that you could derive child seeds that have specific

like functionalities that they can do. So they can only sign for posting or something like that or only sign for events like likes or whatever. And then do you need to actually confirm with a different key to then actually do zaps or something like that, or that they're like time limited so that they're only limited for whatever 24 hours

or one month or something like that. And then you have to kind of recreate new keys from that one offline master key. Do you know if that's something that's been working on? - So that's NIP26, which is like the leading candidate for kind of solving this problem.

And it goes by the name of delegated signing, which the idea is like you say, you have your master noster private key that you could keep on passport. And then you can generate child seeds with different permissions that can say, right, this one can post on my behalf for a month.

After that, this key expires and nobody else will relay that and it becomes null and void. Among the more technical noster users, which does not include me, it doesn't seem to be all that popular.

And I know that people are looking for alternative solutions as well. The details of which are kind of a little bit beyond me at the moment, I'm trying to grasp it fully, but that's why I said earlier it's still an unsolved problem because NIP26 was proposed and kind of gained a little bit of traction.

And then people had to think about it, I thought, oh, well, as, you know, X, Y and Z reasons why this might not be a good idea. So it's kind of a watch this space at the moment. It's all very, very new and something that we're keeping an eye on.

- All right, okay. - And finally, just to cap off the whole Passport firmware update, importing via CQR is coming soon, but it won't be included in this release, it's export only for now.

- Also in the full release, not. - It won't be in 2.1.0, which is the release I've just been talking about, it'll be the one after that, yeah. - Oh man, yeah, looking forward to that. That's pretty wonderful to see another solution there.

- All right, then we've got another major release from Roan and Dojo, the 2.0.0. This, I'm not quite sure there were no actual release notes. Hang on to this, so maybe you have some more info on this, but the only info that was there was, they've switched from Manjaro to Debian,

and then also they've changed the PGP key files. So I think there's like a PGP key from the Roan Dojo support team, and also from Zelco, BGC Zelco, that they've switched to their keys, is that correct?

- Yeah, that is correct. I actually haven't had chance to speak to the team around the reason for switching from Manjaro. Obviously Manjaro is more of a less used Linux distribution. Here we go, I've just booted the tweet up.

So Manjaro is notorious for its rolling releases and bleeding edge changes. While it's nice to stay ahead of the curve, we suffer from tons of headaches with updates and Roan and Dojo upgrades.

This isn't the stability we're looking for in a node and looked at other options. So yeah, they've moved away to something a little bit more stable, that kind of I guess is a bit more cautious with updates, which obviously the fallout from that for the end users is increased stability by moving over to Debian distribution,

which is like the most commonly used one, and the more widely adopted one. - Does this mean you'd be able to run this on a Linux laptop, or do you still have to have it on dedicated hardware?

- It will still be dedicated hardware for now because you can still run Manjaro on a X86 laptop for desktop infrastructure. It's more just how the guys build the project to suit that kind of architecture.

So I don't think that this change ungates that for now. - Okay. Do you think that was something that's gonna happen with more of these node packages? - Oh yeah. - Over time. - Yeah, definitely.

- Yeah, 'cause it seems a bit mad to me. Like, you know, I've got this same laptop as you. And it kind of just sits there. I always think like it's sat there as running anyway. I feel then stupid having Raspberry Pi sat next to it, whirring away and making a load of noise, being irritating.

And it just feels a bit weird to have it running. And it's got all the power in the world to run these things, but you can't. - Yeah, I think that we've already started to see a concerted effort towards that.

I think that'll continue. Ronin Dojo seemed to be booking that trend. I will say that they've said for years that X86 is coming and I don't doubt that it will. But with, they use slightly different hardware, don't they?

They use the Rock Pro 64, which is slightly beefier than the standard Raspberry Pi that you would run. So they tend to suffer much less from reliability issues, as well as the fact that obviously they run less software because it's a more focused project compared to some of the more, I guess, kitchen sink approaches if you like.

So those two things coupled together mean that like the push for X86 in the Ronin Dojo architecture probably hasn't been as concerted as elsewhere because it hasn't been as needed, especially with the release of the Tanto with custom built case and whatnot.

Like overheat isn't really a thing anymore for those guys. - Yeah, minespin, obviously. - Yeah, exactly. So I'm sure it will come, but I know that they're focused heavily on like the plug and play architecture to get this in as many non-technical hands as possible.

So yeah, I'm sure it will come, but just not yet. - One big release that we also, I think, was pretty controversial in the whole scene was the new release from Trezor. I'm not, he's actually 100% sure what version number that was, but most people probably didn't miss it with the introduction of coin join with Wasabi Wallet.

So this would been discussed for quite a while and was actually, I think it was introduced first in Riga at the Honey Badger last year in summer. That was the first time they publicly announced that they'd be doing this.

And now it's officially been released. So now you can coin join with your funds on your Trezor in combination with Wasabi Wallet. So yeah, guys. - I'm chain analysis. - Fantastic. (laughs) - You can coin join and support these chain analysis companies.

It's really, really good for you to look at. - So thoughts, just the real shame. A lot of, hell of a lot of respect for what Trezor's done. They're one of the OGs in the hardware wallet space and have done untold amounts of good for like Bitcoin standards and getting hardware devices into people's hands

where most of the companies today didn't even exist. So I'm not going to sit here and slate them just that it's disappointing to see. The whole point of Bitcoin privacy tools is to route around and push back against people like chain analysis.

They are the enemy of Bitcoin privacy. So integrating a tool that actively chose to work with them is just disappointing and clearly won't be getting any recommendations from me. - It's not just the enemy of Bitcoin privacy.

It's actually the enemy of Bitcoin. You can't separate those two things out. And so the way I see it is if you are using that coin join implementation and you're supporting, you're doing your bit to kill the dream and it's just fucking stupid.

What's the right thing to do is not to pay your enemy. It's just, it's fucking disgusting. - And for anybody that's on the fence about this, I urge you to go and listen to the Citadel this batch.

Matt did, Matt Odell did with the two lawyers who are representing some guy relating to the Bitcoin fog. If you get to the end of that and then still choose to use a company that interacts with chain analysis, I'd take my hat off to you.

You know, you've clearly got-- - No morals. - No morals and a warped view of the world. Go and listen to that. It's like a 90 minute listen. - Is it Roman? - Yeah, yeah. Some guy and some of the bullshit that chain analysis have come up with to try and pin this guy down on the corruption that they're embedded with the US DOJ.

I was so, so angry when I listened to that podcast. So yeah, go and check that out if you're on the fence about this whole, you know, wasabi, chain analysis stuff. - I don't know what else to say really.

- Yeah, for anyone like watching this space, I mean, it should have been obvious that there's been like these flame wars basically between Wasabu wallet and Samurai for quite a while now.

And it's always been based on like technical differences and different trade offs that they've made and so on. And it's been like, yeah, more or less focused on that. And then every now and again, there've been a research paper from one or the other side coming out.

And obviously, I think all of us, we've been on the same side of this debate for quite a while back in Wellpool, Samurai. Me personally, there have also always been quite a few things that I'd like to see improved and changed on the other side as well with Wellpool and Samurai.

But this kind of just completely goes against everything that they stood for beforehand as well. Like at least beforehand, there was some kind of, yeah, like benefit of the doubt that they were kind of just trying to do the right thing, but just taking a different approach and this completely goes out the door.

I mean, obviously we've spoken about this with Wasabi beforehand and now with the integration of Trezza, it's just really disappointing to see that so many people who use Trezza and are probably happy with the product itself will fall into that trap of using Wasabi without actually knowing what's going on behind the scenes.

So for anyone who wants to use Wasabi and knows the trade offs and doesn't really care, I mean, that's always up to them, but I'm really worried that this will pull in a lot of people that don't actually know how this has been implemented and who has access to view what's going on there.

So hopefully we can spread the word to just inform people so that everyone has the option to make up their own mind if they want to use this or not. That's a good point you raise, actually, is that there's not that many users who are actually going to be listening to this type of podcast and people going into this sort of detail.

They just be like, oh, this is a cool feature. I've heard privacy's useful. Wasabi's paying a hell of a lot of podcasts and different people to shield them all over the place and say how great they are, despite obviously putting people in jail.

I think it's important that you shout it from the rooftops because otherwise people are going to miss it. And I think if you spoke to any logical user, if you said, do you want to pay for chain surveillance?

Do you want to pay for something that is trying to take people's freedoms? Most people will be like, well, obviously not, but they're going to miss it. Maybe that's what they should be doing.

Trezor should be putting a warning in their sort of flow when people are going on to it, a warning to say, this is what you're supporting. - Would be nice. I mean, that ain't going to happen.

- No, obviously not. And Citadel Dispatch 100 was a podcast I was referring to, go and check that out. And yeah, it will get you off the fence one way or the other. - Oh yeah. - All right.

Zeus V0.7.5, this was a minor update from Zeus. They've reduced the size of the Android binary release, which is always good to see. And also a bunch of UX UI improvements and bug fixes. They've been iterating quite a lot over the last few months and the app has definitely come.

Come a long way. So big shout out to Evan and the whole team behind Zeus. So I absolutely love this one. - Did you see the Zeus team teasing OlympusLN.com? - No. - So very, very, very low on details right now.

If you go to OlympusLN.com, it's just a landing page. As the feature of payments is coming, Olympus makes using Bitcoin and Lightning easier than ever allowing you to focus on what really matters.

So I think this is them stepping into the LSP game. So right now, Zeus is like, if you don't have your own Bitcoin node, then you can't use Zeus. Like it's a kind of remote control way to control and spend from your Lightning node.

Wherever that's hosted, be it at home on a Pi, computer, VPS, whatever. So I think this is them stepping into the LSP game where they're gonna open it up to be able to use Zeus so that you don't need to have your own Lightning node.

So judging by the developments that they've made to Zeus the app in the last sort of six months and the way that that's improved, I'm very, very excited for this one to see that if they can kind of unlock that goal of using Lightning with as little trust as possible without having to run your own node, which is a massive fucking headache

for most people, myself included. So excited for that one. Very low on details, but they did put a tweet out which I'm just looking for, which did show a little bit more. Or, but Twitter's logged me out.

So fuck Twitter, I won't be able to get it. Sorry guys. (laughs) - Yeah, it'd be great to see some innovation there. I mean, obviously there've been quite a few developments over the last few years with the different LSP designs and trade-offs and so on.

But this would be absolutely fantastic if you could have some more optionality. I mean, obviously even if they just provide the same services everyone else, it would be great. But if they bring some innovation to maybe have some more control over your funds while still using their liquidity and so on.

They've been from the simple Bitcoin wallet, they've been different models proposed there as well. So something in that nature, that would be pretty nice. But as we know them, they'll probably have something up their sleeves, that would be great.

- Yeah, it's gonna be something loosely like simple Bitcoin wallet or Phoenix or Breeze, that type of approach where there might be a lightweight node on your phone or it might be the kind of green light model where there's a node in the cloud but the keys are on your phone.

All designed around kind of giving you, I guess, self custody but taking away the heavy lifting for you. Clearly there's gonna be some fees involved. I'm sure this is gonna be a revenue stream for them which is good to see.

Previously they've had no revenue stream whatsoever. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that they're gonna do a great job about this one and you can join the waitlist now by heading to ellenpisln.com to check it out.

I mean, I haven't got access to it yet but so hopefully by this time next month I'll be able to give him a bit more information as to how it works and the features that are offered there.

- All right, last on the list for our software updates is Nanchak V1.9.29. This was advanced coin control and updated transaction notes to support long notes and hyperlinks and also a whole bunch of different like filter options to filter through your different coins and also transactions.

So just like usability and like intuitive use of the app is just major improvements there and also ability to lock and unlock coins. So if you wanna be sure that you don't spend certain coins you can lock them.

And then even if there's like automatic coin selection or something, they won't take those and then you have to manually unlock them again if you want to wanna spend them. So this just, yeah, puts in some tools so that you don't shoot yourself in your foot if you're trying to do like proper coin control.

- Yeah, good to see coin control has been, well, is it headache for a lot of Bitcoiners and with the exception of Blue Wallet and Samurai, there's not been that many wallets that have even offered this functionality until recently.

I know Stack Wallet does it now as well as Nunjuk with this releases as implemented it. So good to see that it's becoming more commonplace and it's a much needed feature for those that want to kind of use Bitcoin in a private manner and have the ability to kind of spend from specific ETXOs or block them like you say.

The interesting thing here is that they haven't just kind of introduced coin control and just give you some labeling features, they've gone way ahead of that and some of the stuff that we've actually got planned and is actively being worked on for Envoy as well.

So they've got tag as well so that you can have like, rather than just having a specific note for each UTXO to say, right, this came from Antimus, this came from Max, like you can have a sort of hierarchy of categories as well.

So you can have specific notes for specific names, but then you can also have tags for like paycheck or no KYC or wages or anything like that. So, yeah, good to see that they're kind of not just going with the standard of, yeah, here's a UTXO, give it a note, job done.

They've really put some thought into this and quite validating to know that we're heading down a similar path because the Nunchuk guys have clearly got the head screwed on in terms of like UI UX and like wallet features as well.

So we're good to see and yeah, having that chance to play around with it yet, but anybody that's implementing coin control gets a big check mark in my book. So that was it for the updates.

We've got a few releases to mention here. One, which I'm really glad to see. I haven't tested it, but I'm really excited for this one is that Zap Android, the Lightning Wallet was excavated and forked and rebranded to Bitbanana.

So more than I'm not too happy about that one, but yeah, that is crumb. They should have stuck with the old one or just consulted some people about it. Anyway, I really love that wallet. So I was, yeah, obviously I switched to Zeus a while back because Zap has not been maintained for over a year now.

So, well, we'll see, well, I'm not quite sure who the team is buying this and what they'll be doing with it, but definitely cool to see some competition again for Zeus. - Once again, beauty of open source software.

It's been sat there being stagnant for 12 months. Somebody's decided there's a need for it, thought the repository, you're gonna maintain it now and I'm sure adds a lot of the latest features as well.

So love to see it. Zap was like the OG remote control node software. Wasn't it back in the day? It was the first one I ever used when I started playing around with Lightning. And for its day, it had really great UX as well than what you think about that Antimus bot.

If for somebody to be taking this and build an on top of it, hopefully if they kind of continue down the same route that the Zap team did, I think this could be a good contender for Zeus.

- Yeah, just hoping they have better UX UI and coding skills and their naming skills. (laughing) - Yeah, it's not hard. - But yeah, 100% cosign that. - Okay. And then there's also a naive noster.

No KYC exchange for Bitcoin. - That's interesting. - I'm not quite sure about the details there, maybe you can fill us in. - Yeah, details are fairly slim at the moment but I've got no idea who's behind this but somebody's come up with a protocol for a no KYC Bitcoin exchange with all of the communication going over the noster protocol

which brings with it or leverages, should I say the kind of more decentralized nature of communications that noster offers without having to go through the headaches of Tor, et cetera. So like I say, the details are fairly sparse at the moment but this is a protocol so that with a simple private key

you can go and look for the specific types of posts on noster that which will have their own kind and I'm guessing so that you can kind of fill to them and I'm guessing somebody's probably gonna get build a native app around this so that you can find trading peers and sort of trade Bitcoin.

The bit that's making me kind of very wary at the moment is the whole security side of things is basically not covered in this proposal at all. So I think they're leaving that to application developers.

So whilst this is great for discovery of like, okay, I wanna find somebody who's selling $100 worth of Bitcoin for this payment method. Thereafter there's no spec for how I don't get rugged or the buyer doesn't get rugged from their Bitcoin.

So I think whoever's come up with this proposal is kind of pushing that difficult aspect of that to the application developers. There is mention of like Fidelity bonds similar to what's used for join market nowadays but again, it's just very early days.

So I want to keep an eye on what kind of see how it pans out. All right and then there's something for the YouTube lads, I mean, obviously here in EU, it hasn't been too much better. But UK's online safety bill takes aim at end-to-end encryption.

I mean, this is something we've been yeah, expecting for a long time and it's pretty standard. Next step and I mean, obviously not quite sure when this will actually hit, but yeah. I mean, it's a pretty, pretty standard.

Yeah, the headline here, the bit that kind of describes exactly what's going on is that the bill provides no protection for encryption and if implemented as written, could empower off-com, which is kind of one of these words, soup, alphabet soup agencies based in the UK that doesn't really do a lot to try and force

the proactive scanning of private messages on end-to-end encrypted communication services, nullifying the purpose of end-to-end encryption as a result compromising the privacy of all users.

Excellent. So this is just a proposal at the moment, but one that the UK people should be aware of. Interestingly, another quote, both Signal and WhatsApp have said that they will cease services in the UK rather than compromise the security of their users worldwide.

Good on them. Yeah, definitely. And again, just comes back to the importance of free and open-source software, like, you know, if, well, there already are end-to-end encrypted open-source communications applications, like matrix, three-mer, simplex, they all already exist.

You can sideload them on Android. So even if this bill comes in, like, you know, yes, you're going to get a flight of tech, like Signal and WhatsApp, all the big regulated companies, which is good to see that they'd rather do that than kind of bend the knee.

But it's going to be trivial to route around this, like the cat's already out the bag and providing that you're willing to, you know, quote-unquote, break the rules a little bit, then this is already too late.

Yeah, it's too late for people who can be bothered to do it. But my concern is that's a very small percentage of people. I've managed to get most of my family and friends over to Signal now.

And I was like, OK, that was easy enough. And oh, yeah, it's just quite easy to use. And they actually like it. But, you know, trying to convince them to do something that's any more difficult than that.

It would just be a definite no. And then they're just sending postcards back and forth. And everything's going to be red, and whether it happens or not, I'm not sure when it happens. But it feels that that is definitely the direction that things are going in the UK and the EU.

Pretty crazy to think about it. I mean, we're like having the whole encryption wars, like in the '90s with the cypherpunks and stuff. And I kind of winning that and having code labeled the speech and all that kind of stuff.

And now at this point, this all coming up again and not. I mean, as I see, it's not kind of banning encryption itself, but the use of it in messaging, which is kind of-- yeah, the use. So I mean, obviously, it's nice to see what's happened to Signal and so on, say that they'd rather leave--

well, it stands to see if they actually do that, if and when we actually get to that point. But as mentioned before, the same or similar discussions here in the EU to ban end-to-end encryption outright, as well.

Nothing actually implemented yet. Yeah, it is pretty scary to see that all resurface again. And I was having to kind of fight the same battles again. And at the time, obviously, like the whole space and the development of the internet and stuff, the whole digital world was a kind of an niche thing,

as well, compared to today, like at the beginning of the '90s. So I don't know how much resistance we can expect to see now at the moment, exactly. I mean, a few years ago here in Germany, there was a larger movement with the foundation of a new party, like a political party, which was like the pirate party.

It was called-- and that was like around the time of the stone leaks. So they were all for digital privacy and encryption and all this kind of stuff. But that was more or less their only agenda.

And they were pretty successful for a couple of years. And that died down again. And they're still operating, but they'd never get the 5%. So, yeah, we'll see. I mean, maybe there'll be some other big events that push people to realize what's going on here, but I'm not too hopeful about it.

So what's interesting, like my default pushback or solution to stuff like this, because we would get something similar to this every couple of months somewhere around the world, is like, well, I get 700 phone install, callics, or graphene.

And then you can sideload, or manually install any application you want. And that is still true. Interestingly, that kind of flies in the face of all this is Apple-- again, this is by the EU, weirdly enough-- has been forced to eventually allow sideloading of applications so that you can load applications outside of the app store.

I think they've got to comply with this in Europe, at least, by next year. So previously, if you were running an iPhone, you were fully cooked, and you could only install applications through the app store.

And clearly, Apple has the final say on what goes into the app store. So for government says, enter an encryption's bad, Apple's going to go, OK, let's remove all those applications, and then you can't use enter an encryption on your iPhone.

With this, which is weirdly being pushed by the EU government, I guess it's probably to fight back against the monopolization of the app store, which, again, is good. Does weirdly open up the ability to be able to install applications like 3M or Signal or anything like that, even if they were, quote, unquote,

outlawed based on the previous story that we were talking about. So it's kind of a weird dichotomy going on. Wow, that is interesting. I wasn't aware there was actually pushed by the EU, so this-- yeah, OK.

Because I mean, otherwise, I mean, at least half of mobile users, if not a lot more, would have been cut off from that opportunity and who's actually going to switch because of that. And Apple's definitely not going to pull out of a market like the EU, just because they banned something like that.

So, ha. One caveat, obviously, we don't know how it's going to be implemented. So the headline is the EU's Digital Markets Act will come into effect in 2024. The Act forces big tech companies to allow alternative app stores on their platform.

So developers have a choice when it comes to app distribution and users have a choice of downloading apps from different sources. So although Apple's not going to have the monopoly, it might still be a white list of alternative app stores.

So it might not be implemented in the same way as Android, where if you've got an APK file, it will run on your Google phone. It might still have to be, well, OK, where the EU powers that be, we say that there's these five white listed app stores where you can install from.

And if they're all regulated, then it doesn't fix the whole encryption workaround, does it? It just depends how this is all implemented. True. We'll see. All right. Mulvad VPN, they were subject to a search warrant.

And apparently, no customer data seized. No customer data found, even. Yeah, I love this. I don't love this, so absolutely love this. This proffin made me smile and I saw it. So Mulvad and many other VPN companies have said for years now that they don't keep any logs about their customer data.

They don't know what their customers are doing. And they certainly don't keep records of it. As a customer, it's comforting to hear that. But obviously, we've got no way of kind of verifying that.

Until now, kind of in a roundabout way. So on April 18, at least six police officers from the National Operations Department of the Swedish Police visited the Mulvad VPN office in Gothenburg with a search warrant.

They intended to seize computers with customer data. And this is a quote from Mulvad. In line with our policy, such customer data did not exist. We argued they had no reason to expect to find what they were looking for and any seizures would therefore be illegal under Swedish law.

After demonstrating that this is indeed how our service works and them consulting the prosecutor, they left without taking anything and without any customer information. Love it. [LAUGHS] So basically, they can't give what they haven't got.

And yeah, take note. Any Bitcoin companies, you should be deleting customer data regularly, such that if you were subject to any similar treatment, then you've only got very, very small amounts of data that even can be shared whether or not you want to do that or not.

So yeah, I'd love to see it. This is awesome. Hallelujah. On that note, have any of you actually tried out the Mulvad browser with the tour? No. I-- No, I'm sorry. I was just going to say I was actually switched to IVPM this year, so I haven't tried it out.

I gave it a quick whirl on the first day that it came out. And it looks OK. It seems to work OK. I just wasn't a huge fan of the user interface. I'm a big Firefox fan girl at the moment. So it takes a lot to switch me from one browser to the next book.

It seems to work OK. And for those that have not heard about it, it's basically a fork of the tour browser with tour removed. So it actually worked in terms of loading somewhat quickly, but retains all of the benefits that the tour project have implemented in terms of additional privacy

protections for browser fingerprinting, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, interesting to see how they go with that and was a shock to see the release app, because I didn't even know this was being worked on.

How about you, Ants, have you tried it? Yeah, I also played around with it a bit. And it's a bit of a similar thing when you get so used to your browser of choice that at some point switching gets pretty hard.

But I could see me getting used to it. I just really love the collaboration that they actually work together, the tour foundation together with more VADs to get this done with their separate fields of expertise to get this up and running.

And also with native integration of VPN, obviously, with more VAD being a VPN provider, this was very straightforward. But also the design choice that they have opened it up so that you can connect any VPN service that you want to.

So they haven't closed this down to you have to use more VAD VPN. So yeah, I think it's great to have another step kind of in between the regular browsers of choice. And then the tour browser on the other side, because that's quite a big jump.

Obviously, the tour browser is great, but does have a lot of drawbacks. So having something like kind of in the middle that incorporates a lot of the same features, but it's not as hardcore, it's pretty nice.

Yeah, I think if people don't want to go through the headaches of kind of running brave or Firefox and having to adjust all the settings to get really good base level kind of privacy, then this could be a good option to kind of point and click and know that it inherits all the good stuff from the tour browser.

Could be a good option for some people who don't want to go through all that setup process. And then the last point on our list today, I think we mentioned this a few months back as well.

The blue wallet was deprecating there, lightning node service. So anyone who had like funds still parked there should get them out. I think the original deadline was the end of April. I'm not 100% sure.

Anyway, they've pushed it out another month. So now it's 31st of May. So definitely be sure to double check if you have any funds lying around there. You might want to get this out. Just to be clear, this is not the-- like if you have self custody in your blue wallet, this is not that, it's if you've

got like some lightning funds with blue wallet directly, not connected to your own node, then you'll have to get those funds out. I don't know if they've actually said what they're going to do with the funds that remain there.

Maybe they'll donate. Or maybe they'll just use it for more development, whatever. But you won't have access to them anymore. So you might as well get them out. Yeah, and if you don't have your own lightning node and you do need to get some stats off, blue wallet lightning would highly recommend Phoenix

as a great sort of self custody alternative without the headache of running a node. So if you are looking for a quick option, definitely get that one. It's a cross platform app. And one that I use periodically just as a backup to in case my node goes down and had great results with it.

All right, so we've finished off the list for today. I was a pretty long one, but I got through well. Any other points you want to add to you? I just want to ask some questions on Noster.

I've finally joined-- We got Grandad over the line. I've finally joined, but I joined with self-banked. A couple of bottles of wine deep. So I don't think I did it in the best way. I might need to redo it.

Any tips? Yeah, so if you're just starting out, what I would say is test a load of the clients with just burner accounts. See which one of the user interfaces you like the best. Dharmas, Damas is the most popular iOS one.

That's what I've got. Obviously, as an Android-- It's on my-- Go on. I was just going to say, it's on my docked phone. So I was like, this probably isn't the best idea, so I might fuck that off and then use my Android.

Yeah, so on Android, the leading client by a country mile is Amethyst. That's what I use day-to-day. Very, very good. Developed a lightning pace by a guy called Vitor. It's literally like a couple of releases a week at this stage.

A guy's a machine. Stability's great. But yeah, what I would say is just test out loads of different clients with some burner accounts. Just follow a load of accounts and some burner notes.

See which one works best for you. Once you've made your decision, then start again with a new key so that you've only exposed that noster private key to one application. That way, as we know a bit when you don't want to be pasting private keys left, right, and center.

Obviously, there's no money involved here. It's just kind of a noster account, which you can easily spin up another one. But especially for you with the podcast max, if you've spent a bit of time on this account, got it all set up, got a couple of thousand followers and raised the awareness and the brand of that,

and then that key gets compromised for whatever reason. It's just going to be a bit of a ball like so. Yeah, that's my concern. So yeah, again, an unsolved problem at the moment because, let me say, we haven't got the kind of cold storage bit because you need to be online to sign for any events that you do like notes and whatnot.

So that's just early. So the best that you can do in terms of mitigation is limit the exposure of a private key. If you're going to use it on a laptop, would recommend you putting your private key into the Albee browser extension.

And then whenever you go to one of the web-based clients like Snort or Iris, it's only Albee that's got access to the private key. And because that's in your browser, it can sign on your behalf.

But the actual client itself, like Snort, et cetera, doesn't actually get access to it. So again, just about being able to interact with this cool and growing community whilst limiting the exposure of your private key, that's kind of the best solution that's available right now whilst the clever people are working on the more technical

stuff to be able to keep keys offline and delegate child keys, et cetera, et cetera. - Okay, it was slick. Like I've had a play around with it, it was quite slick. I just think you're right.

I should do it, set it up slightly differently. And then the other thing was, as I say, we were a few bottles of wine deep. So I was like, oh, just fucking chuck it on my podcasting 2.0 wallet.

And so we linked that up. But when I've linked that up, you can't see any zaps. So they come through to my wallet on Fountain. But if I go on to the app, onto Damas, you don't see if I like go to look for any zaps.

You can't see them, but I know people have. So it's kind of like, it's like blinded. So I assume that's the wallet. - I'm pretty sure Fountain does support Nip 57, which is kind of the zap thing.

So what I would say is try with Amethyst on your Android phone, just to see if they're coming up there. Because that will tell you that it's a Damas issue. But I know I'm almost certain, found in supports it, because they were one of the early adopters of Noster and payment and whatnot.

- Yeah, that's what we've got. That's what we thought. - Outside of that, though, you will obviously have a BTP server for the Ungovernable Misfit Store, right? So the latest update there allows you to do that.

Self-solving straight to your own Lightning node. There's a Noster extension there that will enable us up, so that should all work. Obviously it's not going to be as easy as kind of plugging in a fountain LN address.

But I'm sure between me and Mr. Crown, we can get that set up for you. That's why I've actually done-- - I'm not even included. - I've done it with the BTP server, but I've just done it via a Lightning address.

So in BTP server, you can create Lightning addresses and then just paste that. And then it comes in. The only downside is-- and I'm not quite sure how this-- but apparently, there are tons of people on Noster who just kind of hit Zap and then don't actually Zap.

So you get, like, probably 15 to 20, if not more, kind of invoices created every hour or something. So it absolutely spams your invoices section on BTP server. So this was originally the same that I was using for my shop for fucking 21.com.

So obviously, this completely butchered all of that. So yeah, I'm not quite sure where I just saw that. But there was one of the other apps that with a new release just brought out that you can put in a checkmark to automatically delete all non-paid invoices.

So this would be great for BTP server as well, so that you just have a good visibility of what's going on. But it's definitely possible and it works. Is it the future? Is it going to be a disappointment?

Or do you think this really is going to be where people move? I'm cautiously optimistic. And the reason I say that is that right now, we've mainly just got a Twitter clone/alternative that's a bit more decentralized, which don't get me wrong is a great thing.

And I've had some good laughs on there in the last couple of weeks. But when you start to think about the wider ramifications of what this thing could be, like in terms of shifting the login space, the Nokia IC exchange space, like it's a communication protocol.

It's not just kind of a Twitter clone, which is the way that most people come in. So yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic. It's still very, very, very early. And the Twitter side of things, it's just a massive circle joke at the moment where everybody's talking about on Noster, and there's a little bit of Bitcoin sprinkled in,

and there's a very, very small community. But when you listen to some of the Noster specific podcasts and the Galaxy brains that are thinking about this outside of the box and people creating alternative clients that are more focused on long-form content.

So there's a place called habla.news, which is a competitor to, like, I guess, sub-stack or medium, all on a decentralized communications protocol that can't be stopped. So, you know, if we go back into kind of like a COVID world where, you know, you can't talk about the V word or the Ivermectin word, then, you know,

if you were to do that on habla.news, which uses Noster under the hood, then essentially it's kind of like unstoppable blogging. So that's just one example of, like, the way that this thing could shake up the world.

And I'm sure we haven't even begin to scratch the surface of the other possibilities. So, of course, it's the optimistic, but, you know, trying to keep my head on this level here that, you know, very much a circle jerk at the moment, and it's just like the same couple hundred people talking to each other.

But that's just, I guess, a reflection of where we are and how early it is and how sort of, it's changing every single week at the moment. Like, the pace of innovation is just staggering.

Yeah, I think, like, the big push at the beginning, obviously, it was like kind of just, like, Jack being on there for, like, 24 hours straight every day. Like, it's just up and everyone left and right.

And that, I mean, it would be great to see the hype kind of survive until there's some funding coming in for the clients and stuff, so that they can actually build and innovate on this. That'll be absolutely amazing.

'Cause I think, as you mentioned, it's a protocol. So if you can do pretty much whatever you want with your own client, so if you have different ways to monetize this, which obviously with your seamless integration with Lightning, that's pretty easy.

So I think there are a lot of opportunities for developers to come up with new ideas and then also for investors to push in some funding there to get this big and that'll be great. So obviously if it dies down before that actually happens, then it could be over before we know it.

We'll see. - Yeah, another great example has just popped into my head. Like, the LMBET guys have already come up with an extension called Noster Marketplace, which is essentially like decentralized BTC pay server so that you can sell anything you want.

And all it is is just like notes on the Noster network with a front end on it that you could sell anything you want and there's no single head to chop off or single server to take down to be able to stop you selling whatever items it is you want might be that physical or distributed, sorry, digital items.

So yeah, very new, I haven't had a chance to play with it yet but you can essentially just set up your own shop on there that goes straight to your, you know, it all runs on, on your node, the front end at least.

And then all of the actual items are just kind of, they're just notes on the Noster network which you shared across hundreds of different relays. So even if one relay says, I don't like what you're selling then the beauty of that kind of protocol is that that one relay kind of censoring you isn't going to impact your store

because it's as long as people know where to find you which obviously you can publish that anywhere then it's kind of almost unstoppable. Cali was from the The Allen Bits team was talking about this on People Call Mac Show and yeah, this one seems really promising because you can sell anything you wanted really

and safe and analyze that it's pretty censorship resistant. - Oh, Silk Road 3.0. - I think People Call Mac actually did draw the analogy. Obviously nobody's sort of... - Saying it out loud.

- Exactly, yeah. But everybody's thinking the same sort of thing. - Exciting stuff. All right guys, well, I think that's everything. That was a good list. Good to catch up with you both. Anything else before we jump off?

- One thing I quickly wanted to mention is that we've, 'cause we've been quite a few people reaching out on fullcon21.com in our shop, we've taken out the standard steel QR sizes. So it's only the compact now.

So instead of having the three different versions, the C12 and then CS124 and the S24, 'cause it's been quite a mouthful. And also because seed signer has now implemented the compact seed QR standard as a default we've taken out the standard format.

So now the only plates we're still selling are the C12 and the C24. So this is both compact version and one for a 12 word and one for a 24 word. So yeah, obviously the seed signer still supports all others and all the other implementations and all the other different wallets too.

So if you're using an S24, that's still fine. And if there are any custom needs for people who want one of the deprecated ones, just let me know and we can get something sorted. But just so there's no confusion there and if anyone's listening, just so you know.

- Love it, yeah. From me, just real quick. Forgot to mention that the Envoy Hot Wallet beta is out and active. Hop into the foundation telegram group if you're interested in trying that out so that you can use Envoy as a standalone wallet.

Lots of super, super core ship plans. And by the time we record next month, that should be as a main release available to anybody and will be out of beta as well. So yeah, get involved and come and test it out for us.

- All right, I'll catch you next month. - Oh yeah, have a good one. - See you boys. - Thanks for listening. I really hope you enjoyed that as much as I enjoyed recording it. If you haven't already, check out the weekly update show that I do with John.

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