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Are we all in? I'm on mute. Me and Mike. Yeah, I was trying to unmute myself, I muted you. Fat fingers. Morning, lad. How's it going? Right. Yeah, wonderful. You got your laptop, mate. I did.

I finally got the beauty. In fact, should we save it for when we're on it? We are on it. Are you self-launched us? Yeah, yeah. Especially this morning, because I'm feeling a bit shitty, I wanted to catch you out because I've got no coffee, still a bit ill, I just thought I'd make these guys suffer a little bit.

So there we are. So, all right, we'll revert back to the original conversation. Max, you got your laptop. I have. I have. I'm very, very happy boy. It arrived yesterday. It did arrive with a broken seal, so I am in discussions with them.

I've emailed them to sort of see what the thoughts are, but it looks really, really lovely. Beautifully built, and all the packaging in there is so nice.

I'm very excited, but I'm not actually going to set it up for a while, because I really want to wait until I have a desk and proper internet connection, and somewhere that I can sit quietly without being surrounded by shit, so that I can think through it and not make any mistakes from the beginning.

So yeah, it's something I'm waiting with, but I know you've got yours, so you can maybe have a bit more information on the Starbook than I can, because all I've done is held it. I caressed it.

I caressed it. I kissed it. Yeah, quick bit of background for anybody who wasn't listening to last month's shame on you if you weren't, Max and I ordered a laptop, a Linux first laptop called Starbook, from a company called Starlabs.

I placed my order in April this year, I think, and it turned up last week. Max showed a little bit later, but has been waiting for just as long a time, almost. So there's been quite a bit of anticipation for these bits of kit to turn up, and I must say, it absolutely doesn't disappoint.

I've had it for about half a week now. First job was to install PopOS, which went an absolute dream. The hardware itself feels really premium, just really nice touches as well, like the, did you notice the charge cable, Max?

Like, it's kind of like a braided material. Yeah, that's really nice. I wasn't so sure about the blue, though. I was like, I quite like it to be all black, but yeah, that's a nice touch. Yeah, big fan of the trackpad, the keypad's great, the screen looks great.

Compared to my old piece of shit laptop, which admittedly was very, very old, this feels like a just completely new experience. It's lightning quick, and I tried a bit of video editing yesterday with it, and it just completely sucked everything in its stride.

So I'm really, really happy with it, and so far, happy to recommend it to anybody that's interested in buying a Linux first laptop, which admittedly, you don't need to splash out a thousand pounds to run Linux.

You can put it on pretty much any piece of hardware, but if you kind of want to increase your lapping points a little bit, then it's a really great option, and I'm very, very happy with it.

One thing I will share, actually, I was talking to Catan last night, who was the impetus for this whole starlabs movement, I guess he was the first one to do it, and I copied him. He initially had some issues when he booted it up and tried to put PopOS on it.

He was having, when he locked the device, and so you can, you know, as if you were going to do control that delete on Windows back, you know, back in the day, just to lock the device, if you're going to walk away from it.

When he was doing that, he was getting like a screen flicker, and then the laptop was locked up, so consequently, he wasn't, he wasn't very happy, so he had a couple of hours worth of panic when he was trying to fix it.

He went on to the starlabs GitHub page, and somebody had already raised it, and they were literally all over it within a matter of hours, come out with a fix straight away, which has cured his issue, he's now happily running PopOS.

So, admittedly, not a great start, but, you know, this is Linux, and Linux does come with its challenges sometimes, but since leaving implemented that fix, it's been flawless for him, and so I guess it's another tick in a box for the customer service as well.

You know, we were slating the communication last month, when we were through lack of updates, you know, throughout the whole time we were waiting for delivery, but since it's been delivered, it looks like the customer service seems pretty attentive,

so yeah, really happy and looking forward to continuing to use it, and hopefully it lasts me a long, long time. Definitely, maybe as well, because they had their issues with getting the batteries and all that sort of stuff.

I'm hoping that people get their orders quicker next time, because I've had a few people reach out to me, and until yesterday I was like, "Look, just wait, let me see if I actually receive this thing, and then I'll tell you, because it has been a long time, but I might reach out to them and actually say,

like, if someone was toward now, when do you think they could actually get one of these things?" Because, yeah, you don't want someone ordering it, and needing it, and then waiting, you know, six months, so it might be worth it out first.

Because they are still... Until last week, Katan was convinced that we'd... Go on, Antimus. Sorry. No, they are offering pre-orders at the moment, again, for an ex-batch, or is it just like an ongoing offering now, and what's the situation?

Do you know what? I'm not actually sure. Since I got the device, I haven't been back on the website, so my guess is because they're... Not, you know, they're pretty much a small UK company, I'd imagine they're not sort of mass-producing these,

so it probably makes sense that they do them in sort of batches, where they'll take, you know, X amount of orders and then create them, so... But yeah, I'll have to check up on that one, I'm not 100% sure.

I think we've got a big delay on the Antimus's side, or either that, or he's gone completely. Yeah, and I think we've got a delay. Yeah, I think so too. Or he's gone. I'm hearing you good, but I think it's delayed. It definitely feels weird.

I'm just moved into a new place here, never need, like, a fixed internet connection, so I'm on my phone, on mobile. That's probably the issue. Fuck. That's all right. Well, any news your end, Antimus?

Yeah, well, it's probably best to get that out of the way at the beginning. Yeah, we're speaking about Compass last month, so anyone who missed that, probably best to go back one month, so we don't actually recap everything here again.

But yeah, there've been a few developments since, so last status was that we'd be online by the 30th of November. Today, Dave recording is the second of December. Yeah, since then, we've been delayed a few times again on the 20th of November, we got an email saying that we'd get an additional $500 per machine.

And now on the 29th, I think it was one day before their own deadline. Yeah, they sent out a new email saying that they would sell a new deadline, which would be the 31st of March.

So a decent buffer of four months saying, but also that everyone who is affected by this next delay, again, will receive 12 months of free hosting as from the time that they go live. Yeah, so what are your thoughts, man?

Yeah, not good. Not good. Are you in exactly the same boat here, Max? Yeah, yeah, so, you know, without recapping everything that we went through last time, just talking about just literally what's happening now, I'm in the same boat.

So I had exactly the same experience of being pushed back twice since our last call. And then being told like again, definitely on the 30th of November, you'll be online. That's the absolute latest date.

And then obviously the 30th came and went. And then I heard a few rumblings from a few people in the space. So it said, you're probably going to receive an email basically saying, yeah, it's going to be delayed again.

But I didn't actually know how long for. And then, yeah, I finally got the email. I never got that $500 email because Antimus reached out to me. It was like, oh, yeah, you're going to get $500 extra and they're going to come online soon.

But, you know, they're doing something. And I was like, ah, do you know what, at least they're doing something. Like we get it online this month, finally, and they're doing something. And as pissed off as I've been, at least they're sort of taking some responsibility.

And it's some type of apology. So 500 does absolutely nothing really in terms of how many sets we've lost. But it's something. And then obviously you get the final slap in the face, which is, well, actually, we're going to delay you potentially another four months.

And seeing as they've already broken their promises and deadlines constantly, like six, seven times or whatever it's been, yeah, definitely it's going to be this. You're definitely it's going to be that you're deaf.

So, I mean, you know, I don't even hold out hopes that it would be in March, to be honest. So, yeah, I don't feel good about it. I would very comfortably say to anyone listening, don't ever go near that company.

I think anyone who's in charge with Gibbs and all these guys seriously fuck you, absolutely pathetic. It really is just disgusting the way that people have been treated at this point. And equally, I'm an idiot because I went for self hosting and it's not my hosting, it's not my hash.

And for me once, that's it. I won't be doing it again ever. It's just lost me so much money. Yeah, that's it, really. I don't know what else to say. Not good, not good, not the update. I was hoping to hear you one.

Do you know what, though, this whole situation has shown an even more of a positive light on offerings, like what upstream data have come up with with the, you know, the black mining box.

So, for those that haven't seen this on Twitter, it's essentially a black box that you can buy from a company that I think you can either correct me for wrong. You can either buy just a box or you can buy it filled with miners as well.

It comes with its own sound, deadening inside and insulation and heat management. So, essentially, you buy this box and it turns a bit your house and you plug it into some power and you're essentially a way mining.

So, the benefits are, number one, you've got control of the miners. Number two, the noise is managed to a level where it, from what I've seen on Twitter, is, you know, manageable. So, that it's, you know, you might not get a divorce if you've got this one.

And it's also weatherproof as well. So, some of the videos has actually been, this box has been outside in the snow. So, if you could run it outside, then, you know, as well as the managed, the noise management from the box itself and all the insulation.

It's just not in your house. You're not going to hear it unless you're right next to it. So, it cures two of the big home mining issues, be it heat and noise, in quite a novel way. But also, it makes it really easy to, to host your own hash at the end of the day.

The one thing that obviously, the box and that offering can't fit is the electricity prices. But, you know, it gets you a damn sight nearer than having to completely roll your own mining set up.

Alla, you know, diverter or economic risk. Anybody there? Hi. Yeah. I just have, I just have myself on mute. I was just waffling on with myself on mute. I keep doing it because I've got the dog here and he's being an absolute pain in the arse and charging around.

I didn't want all the noises because I spent so long editing him out of the last one. I thought it was a great addition. I love it. It's like it wasn't. So, have you seen, have you seen this, the box from upstream data?

Yes, my scene is, is actually brilliant. I really like the design because it's so simple. I mean, obviously they, they're offering to actually buy it from them. But at the end of the day, everyone can build one themselves.

That's just such a, such a simple but effective design, really liked it. And speaking of Econo Alchemist, they came out, I think it was today, this morning or yesterday, that if you get one of those boxes, you can have a chat with, with Econo Alchemist, there's support lead there to help you set it up and any questions you have there.

So, I think that's a great combo, they've gone for there. A hundred percent, if anybody's deserving of a, of a job in the space, it's him. I don't know if anybody's sort of followed his, followed his story and, and see where he's at in his sort of personal life.

Absolutely well deserved and I'm sure he'll be a fantastic addition to their team. And I think there's going to be big things to come from them. You know, we've, we've seen from the plug and play node space that there is a market for simple set up of this sort of stuff.

So it seems only natural that having a somewhat larger box that you could just plug in at home and start mining some KYC 3 Sats is, is a bit of a no brainer, really. So I'm looking forward to see how that grows.

Yeah, definitely. And, and also like, you know, we keep talking about cost of electricity and, and all of this sort of stuff. But at the end of the day, if you believe the value of Bitcoin will continue to increase and the amount of users on the network will continue to increase, then it doesn't really matter,

especially with these newer machines. You know, you can still be profitable and you have the added value of them being KYC 3. Like it's an amazing way to acquire them and your constantly dollar cost averaging effectively, except it's like, you know, Sats, there's no dollars involved since, you know, from the point you buy the hardware.

Even though, yes, you can go and get five cent a kilowatt hour or six cent a kilowatt hour in theory, you can see what's happened to me in Antomists and like, we have been absolutely raped on this.

And so what seems like a good deal, actually, we would have been better off paying UK or German or basically any sort of energy costs. We would be better off than we are now. So I just don't think it's worth it.

I think that the home mining is brilliant and you just have to eat the fact that you have a bit of costs. Or if you have a business and you can write off some of those costs against the business, or you can get some sort of deal with someone who's over producing solar or wind and you can get your miners there.

I think it's just time for people to get innovative and think around these solutions rather than just going with, oh, well, I'll find someone to host who can't be trusted. Yeah, completely agree.

It's only a good thing that, across the whole Bitcoin space, and I've just put a tweet out about this really, but especially mining, the barrier to entry is getting lower and lower and that's true of wallet and nodes and everything like that.

So really great to see and really appreciative of all the people out there that are plugging away and working on this sort of stuff, pushing us all forward. So it's great, really great to see.

Wonderful. Yeah, definitely. Do you want to, because we've got such a big delay. Why don't we jump into the list and, and as usual, if you read through, which way does the delay go?

You hear us for 20 seconds after we speak, but will we hear you when you're speaking? How does that work? So probably after just, just so that I speak, just because otherwise we're going to just cross talk.

Did that work? All right. Well, I think the delay is from mining your, your voice is maxed to get to onto Mrs. Ears, basically. Fine, but not the other way around. It wouldn't appear so now.

OK, all right. So that means, um, and if you start going through the list, let's do this. OK, so block stream brought out to releases once for a blockchain green, V 3.7.6 and once for a blockchain green, desktop V 1.0 put four, both pretty significant there.

The first for boxing green is that you can actually now hook up to your own personal electron server, which is obviously a massive deal for privacy and block screen green desktop, now also enabled Betch 32M addresses, so taproot addresses and manual coin selection for single SIG.

Yes, so the mobile app update here is, I believe, is just Android only. And but the significance of which shouldn't be understated. And previously, if you wanted to connect blockchain green to your own node, it did.

So I think using directly to Bitcoin call through the RPC interface, which in my personal experience was fucking hopeless, and it just never worked. And when I did manage to get a successful connection, it was, you know, trying to receive transaction was, was somewhat taxing.

So the ability to connect to your own electron server now is, I haven't tested it, but it's going to speed things up massively, I would imagine. And he's very much more in line with the rest of the mobile wallets in the space.

So good to see that they've kind of followed suit, I guess. Then we've got blue wallet, V6.2.13, UI and bug fixes, minor updates there. Breeze 0.12 point fix pack, some issues they had there with crashing software.

And they've also now included QR support for lightning addresses, which is cool. We've seen that from multiple lightning wallets over the last two months. BTC pays over V1.3.6 bug fixes, just ironing out something there.

See lightning V0.10.2, they had issues there that when you were trying to repay an invoice, it would invalidate the old try, but they've fixed that now. So now you can have multiple payments there for one invoice and then whatever goes through first is valid.

Just on to see lightning, I just want to come in there because I've been threatening that I was going to try it out for a long, long time and I finally got round to it last week to test out bolt 12 offers and I just massively, massively impressed with it.

Did so on my Raspberry Blitz, which made it really easy. And bolt 12 offers for anybody interested are, it's, well, one of the features, there's quite a few, one of the early features that are live right now is that as with any lightning node, once you've set it up and you've got a channel, channel open, you can generate

a static QR code, which is essentially an invoice. It doesn't need to be, it's reusable and it doesn't need to have a payment request coded into it. So it's essentially like a blank check that you can copy and paste to wherever you want be that your Twitter account or Telegram just host it as an image on your website or, you

know, get a tattoo of it, anything you want. And anybody, we're, we're all currently with sea lightning and hopefully this gets widely adopted, but anybody that has a compatible wallet can scan that and can pay you any amount and they can use that repeatedly for different amounts or the same amount.

So it's really quite functional. When you compare it to the current lightning ecosystem of, you need to serve somebody an invoice every time that you want them to pay you, which means that you need to be online and active and you need some form of server, you know, analogous to a BCP server, for example,

if you want to take lightning donations and you, you, you still need that server there to be able to serve those a new fresh invoice every time and there, there's been some work done on LN URL, which kind of enables a reusable invoice, but you still need that web server to be able to serve it.

So you, the, the barrier to entry is still fairly high, whereas the bulk 12 offer I've just been talking about is, like say, it's just a QR code that you can take a screenshot of and share with whoever, wherever and all the communication is done through the lightning network.

So there's no, you don't need a HTTP server or a BCP server or anything like that. So it's only available through sea lightning at the moment, which obviously limits the functionality somewhat to anybody who's running sea lightning.

Not many people are, are they? No. Well, every single node implementation, and so Raspberry Blitz umbrella start nine, anything like that. They all run LND. The only one that offers both is, is a Raspberry Blitz where you can run LND and sea lightning.

So if you wanted to try this out, you need a Raspberry Blitz or you need to be able to get in a command line and sort your own sea lightning out, which obviously is not for everybody. And there's rumor, I posted a tweet about it, hoping that it gets some eyes on it to people to test it, raise the profile of it.

And there's rumors of the guys at async who run the, who run the Eclair implementation of lightning, they're working on it. So my understanding of lightning is that if two of the big three lightning implementation, you've got LND from lightning labs, you've got sea lightning from block stream and Eclair from async.

If two out of the three of them implement something, it becomes the agreed standard. So it looks like we're heading towards that way. But from what I've been hearing, there's some pushback from the guys at lightning labs who run LND because they've got sort of a competing way to sort of approach this.

So it's going to be interesting to see how it pans out, but yeah, if you've got a Raspberry Blitz, give it a try. I think I'm almost certain you can run LND and sea lightning concurrently.

So if you've got channels open on LND already, you don't need to close all them just to test this out. You can run them side by side. That's really cool. It sounds amazing. The one bit that I can't work out is how can it be that you don't need a BTC pay server

and you can just have one QR code, like who's doing what in the background to give you these new invoice addresses or whatever needs to be done? How is this achieved with you being offline?

So your node needs to be online because it's a lightning node. That's just the very nature of it, but if you had one of these bulk 12 offers, you just sent me a picture of it. I scammed it with a compatible wallet and then decided how much I wanted to pay you.

My node communicates to your node only through the lightning network. We do that negotiation through the existing network and it's all done at that level. Whereas the current system with, say, for example, BTC pay server in LND, you've got a lightning node, but on top of that, you've got BTC pay server, which is essentially like

a website, a public facing website. Those two are talking, so you go on to the, I'd go on to your BTC pay server, say, right, I want to send max 5,000 stats. That would then communicate with your node and say, somebody wants to pay you 5,000 stats.

Can I have an invoice for that? Your node would pass that back up to BTC pay server, BTC pay server would then serve that to me on my computer screen. I could then scan that and pay it, so you're just removing that extra requirement for the web server if you like, because everything runs through the lightning network.

If you're paying me and your node is talking to my node directly, does that mean that there's any privacy issues there? Are we giving information that could docs our IPs to each other or how much of an issue could that be?

Because obviously it's fine if it's just you and me, or me, you, Antimus, who are for sending, but let's say, for example, you put on your website, you put on here next to the bitcoin.guide, one of these little QR codes, and someone reads this and goes, "Oh, do you know what?

This is actually really useful, and I appreciate that you've done this. I want to send you a few stats," and they scan that and send that. Their node talks to your node. Is there any danger there of doxing yourself?

Yeah, so the current implementation, the communication is done through new messages like it currently is across the whole of the lightning network anyway, so the communication side is fine.

It doesn't initially fix the receiver level privacy, so anybody could scan that QR code and work out what my node public ID is, and from that they could do some advanced analysis to try and work out the size of my channels and things like that.

Office doesn't change that initially. There are further proposals as part of the Vault 12 implementation, which do things like, and this is kind of getting a little bit over my head now, but do things like, so let's say you scan my Vault 12 offer, rather than it having the final destination, it all sort

of say, "You can pay me by paying this node," which will be like another node halfway along the route from you to me, so you don't learn where the final destination is, but within that route that node that I've sort of nominated knows that that payment needs to go to me.

Right, okay. So that's a very, very high level, and I've probably butchered it a little bit, but I know that that is one of the proposals, so you can kind of cut the ties from, "I know I'm paying Max, but I don't know where his node is, I'm just sort of set," he told me where

to send it in his rough direction, and then the network takes care of it from thereafter. That sounds pretty cool, because yeah, that is a concern of me with the Lightning Network, and it is probably because I don't understand it well enough, but I do think like, "Well,

if someone can de-anonymise and they can work out what channels you have with who and what size and they have information on those channels, I don't think it would be necessarily impossible for them to work out who you are," and then I wonder, "Well, is there a way for them to also find your IP and find out where you are?"

And then it's like, it seems that would not be a great thing for somebody who's getting tips to put that information on there, because it could fully dox you. How difficult do you think this is in reality?

Is this like me being overly paranoid, or is that actually a real concern? Would you be concerned putting one on yours if you're running your node that you're receiving the Satson at your home, for example?

Would that be a concern for you? No, no, I'm doing exactly that, but the QR code that I shared when I was testing it is on my Raspberry Blitz, which is sat next to me. It's all of the Lightning, all the Lightning nodes default to using the tour network anyway,

so the IP address isn't an issue unless you specifically go into the settings and make it a public facing IP, so that side of things for me isn't a concern. Like I say, the receiver privacy on the Lightning network is an issue at the moment.

It takes an active, sophisticated attacker to try and clean this information about you, your channels, what your public idea is public anyway, but it does take more of an advanced attack, but I think, like I say, there's plans of fault that somewhat tackle this a little

bit, but we have seen quite a few different studies that have been done on Lightning network privacy that show that it is possible, even if you've got private channels or unannounced channels as they're now being termed, because it turns out they're not actually that private,

that there's holes in the system, let's say, but there are plans of fault to look at trying to tackle it. Cool. Okay. Then we've got Electrus V0.9.3, they've got a whole bunch of improvements there, fully

noted V0.2.30, they've also enabled taproot support for single-sig, and a few bug fixes. Hexa wallet V2.0.5, they've got our gift stats feature.

I'm not quite sure how that works, but something there for UI that might be a bit of an attraction. Immorton V0.5.7 now implements coin control, which is a big one, hugely important there.

Joymarket V0.9.4, required bug fixes for makers, I'm not quite sure what they were, what the issue was there, but that's been fixed. Just going to jump in with the Joymarket thing. I'm not sure on the bug fix, but you've both heard about the bounty for the web GUI for Joymarket.

Well, I think I've seen the first iteration of it this morning. It looked very basic and rudimentary at the moment, but it looks like somebody finally come up with the goods. Did you hear about the bounty, by the way?

Yeah. I think it was instigated by Matt O'Dell and a few others to try and, you know, the often repeated criticism of Joymarket is that it's really not easy to use, so I think a couple of people have clubbed together and said, "Look, you know, why don't we put a bounty

on the fact that we want a graphical user interface to make it more approachable so that more people are going to use it?" So that's been running for, I want to say, at least six months now.

It looks like we finally got the first iteration of it, as I say, very, very simple. I've just dropped the link in the chat if you want to have a look, guys. Very, very simple, but good to see that it's progressing and hopefully, you know, if this

is the first iteration, that it will continue to improve and give us another option for those that want to try a different coin during implementation as well. Nice. I really need to actually get my arse and gear and have a play with this.

It's been too long. We say this every month, don't we? Yeah. Well, I have had a play, I have had a play, but it's just, you know, I haven't actually done it with my own stats, it was, yeah, I didn't have any stats on the line.

I was just playing around with it, but it did seem cool. Yeah, going through command line that won't like the user interface they have at the moment, it's pretty daunting. So if you don't have anyone who knows their way around it, like holding your hand, actually

putting your own stats on the line, I was pretty, yeah, I haven't pulled the trigger on that yet. I've played around with it a bit to just look through the options and so on now it's built up, but having like a proper user interface and like integrated to a node package or something that would be absolutely amazing.

We've now got LND V0.14.1, better RC1. They've now got a hybrid Tor connectivity mode, I'm not quite sure how that works. I don't know, Q&A if you've got more details on that. Not on the Tor connection, but the release before, the one you just mentioned, actually

completely balked the connection between LND and the other lightning implementations. Green connections were fine, but if you wanted to set up a new channel to say an Eclair node or a C lightning node, the update they released just made that that was not possible.

So it kind of fractured the network a little bit, which is a little bit scary given that you'd like to think that lightning labs is growing to be a fairly big team now. So how's something big like that?

I slipped through the quality assurance now, I'm not sure, but as the note alluded to, the bug fix to restore cross implementation compatibility is now live. So as long as you're not running, I think the bad release was 14.1.

So just running anything newer than 14.1. So obviously we're talking about the beta here. That fixes that cross compatibility issue. So just want to make a PSA for anybody, just to check which version of LND that you're running.

Okay. We've now also got my node v0.2.47. They've been nice and diligent with all their software updates of all their packaged apps. It's been good, Nix Bitcoin v0.0.59, got added RTL, write the lightning to their package, which is nice.

Passport v1.0.8 beta. They've got auto delete PSBT files after signing, which is obviously a good feature there to not have anything stored on there, but I guess Q&A you'll have something to add to that.

Yeah. Well, pretty much a bit more of a maintenance release, really. There's predominantly just a couple of minor bug fixes, as you say, we've added the functionality so that we automatically delete the PSBT after it's signed so you don't end up with loads of stale signed PSBT files on your microSD card that you have to delete manually.

So we've just released that as a beta firmware. So anybody that wants to test it, feel free, and we'll say minor release. So the next release 1.9 should be a bit more juicy, shall we say.

Looking forward to that. Rust Lightning v0.0.103 API updates and bug fixes, just minor there. And now the big one, that was great to see, seed sign of the 0.4.5, it was released.

They have optimized workflows, custom derivation paths, new fonts and screensaver and also just playing around with that over the last week or so was really cool to see it's gotten a lot easier, and especially the absolutely underrated new feature is being able to set

the brightness of the display so that you can actually transmit the QR code in pretty much any lighting situation. It's such a cool project. I love seeing all the time I always see people with new cases and tinkering with new things

and updating stuff and the community around it is excited to be pushing it forward. Definitely for me it's one of the coolest projects out there. Yeah, seed sign of for me is absolutely the perfect shining example of what free and open source tools can do, this started out as one guy who by his own admittance isn't really

a technical, he's not strictly speaking a programmer. Yeah, so he had some time on his hands and he thought he had an idea, he came up with a very rudimentary tool and then from there he's gained a little bit of public exposure.

People have rallied around him, they've donated to him, there's loads of different contributors there now that are helping from a UI perspective, there's people that have come up with their own 3D printed cases, there's people that are offering improvements and that is for

me is just such a great shining example of the beauty of the free and open source space that look at what the tool can do now, even compared to when it first came out less than a year ago, and what it enables people to do for like $50, yes don't get me wrong, it's

not as easy as buying your own hardware wallet, but as a shining example of force is fantastic. And the fact that you can build one of these under the radar is a massive plus for me, especially in countries where you really need to be under the radar, you really do not want

to have a hardware wallet sent to an address that could be linked to you, not that you particularly want that anywhere, but sometimes it really is life or death and so to be able to buy off the shelf parts and to build this and potentially even if someone was to raid,

you know it would be very difficult to know how the fuck to use it and what it is. So I think it not only is an amazing project for the reasons we've just mentioned, but also for the safety of the users, I think that's massive.

Yeah, completely agree, yeah cosign that 100% is also just so great to see like the development of that project that so much is also out in the open, like you can actually follow on discussions of different improvements and see like screenshots of stuff being developed

and for future releases and it's just so much more engaging, there are a lot of other projects that you then just get the release at some point and then see what's been what they've been working on and you really get a feel for the community on Twitter, I just really cool, love it.

Ok, then we've got simple Bitcoin wallet V2.2.17 bug fixes, new eye improvements, Spectre desktop V1.7.2, they've improved the rescan ability, a few new wallets, encrypted user data storage which has been asked for a long time, that's good to see, then Sphinx relay

V2.2.3 bug fixes, start 9 MBCOS V0.2.17 SSL server bug fixes, that was a good episode on TFTC with founder of start 9 going through their new release for V0.3 coming up, that's

definitely a good listen, thunab V0.12.31 bug fixes, trezosuit V21.11.2, new search features and design enhancements, umbrella V0.4.9 to a phase, so we just jump in, I think we're

enough to pause there and sort this connection out, yeah it's disgusting. It will record locally, so some of what you've said because it's recorded locally will hopefully come through because it's on your side, but yeah it is horrible, I don't know what is

happening with it, ok, well we basically made it through, nearly, so I don't know if you can actually, yeah we're basically through it aren't we, but not really, I can now, I couldn't at the time, I think I heard you as far as start 9 and then I didn't hear

anything after that, ok, so that was it for the updates, we got through it eventually with some connection issues and there's one that's not on the list because it only came out last night and it hasn't had an official release yet but I've just checked and it is

on a public-facing website, so I'm not kind of, I'm not breaking ground and stealing anybody's thunder here, but Sparrow Wallet has released their beta version of one, I don't know what version it is anyway, their next release, for testing and Craig wrote being the beast

that he is, has implemented co-hoots transactions using Paynims, so that means that you can now as well as use Wellpool which he implemented a couple of versions ago, you can now make spend after you've mixed, or before you've mixed with any other Sparrow Wallet user or

Samurai Wallet user, the two are absolutely interoperable, so let's say that you've done a couple of mixes and then you want to spend too cold storage or you want to spend too emerging and rather than doing that using the Stonewall feature that's built in, you can

use the Stonewall X2 feature that's now built in, so that let's say I'm paying Antimas, I can get in touch with Max out of band and say "Max, I'm going to pay Antimas now" but I want to do it with the coin join, Max will go "Yeah cool, that's fine, I'll just fire

up my Samurai Wallet or my Sparrow Wallet, it doesn't really matter which" and then that will enable me to mix some of my UTXOs with some of Max's UTXOs when we are paying to Antimas, all automated, after you've sort of paired the painting, it's a couple of clicks

and it'll just say "Go and tell Max to say his Samurai Wallet or his Sparrow Wallet to listen mode" and then as soon as Max accepts it's all done automated over the tour network nice and private so that you can make it a two person coin join, that feature is also

implemented for Stonewall as well, so that's again if I was to pay, I was paying directly to Antimas, if he was a Sparrow Wallet or Samurai Wallet user and had to pay him, I could pay him and he could be sort of "incahoot" with me at the same time so that we could make

that spend a coin join, Antimas is still getting paid, but the amount that I'm paying for Antimas is not visible on the blockchain, the nature of the way the transaction is constructed again, all automated, there's no extra fees for it, it's just minor fees, so we're mourning

actually huge in terms of, you know, you can now do two person coin joins automated with anybody else, you know, somebody on the other side of the planet as long as they've either got an Android phone or they have a laptop that's got a spiral wallet on it, there we

go, it's back again, it's back, sorry, my turn now, how far did you get, what do I need to recap, you're just talking about slowway, so the example if you want to pay me directly with slowway and then you carve, yeah so I could pay Antimas, we could create that spend

to be a coin join, again all automated over the tour network and the amount that I was paying Antimas would not be visible due to the way the transaction is constructed, so a really, really powerful new update because it essentially opens up these tools to anybody

with a laptop that wants to run Sparrow basically, so pretty huge, I've tested it myself on TestNet last night and it works so fucking well, it's so slick, so when this gets released officially, it's going to be a big one and the excuses for not making every spend a coin

join are fast running out, so really, really great to see it and once again, absolutely in awe of Craig growing the pace at which he cranks this stuff out, Antimas did you have a question on it?

But you still have to initiate it with the other partner with each spend, so you can't like set this up, like if the two of us want to spend to max, then we could set up like a kind of like a connection or a channel basically between two of us, that one of us could initiate

this on their own, just setting it up at the beginning, it has to be each time you want to spend both have to be available and have to initiate it, right? That's right, yeah, so let's say I'm the one that's doing the spend to max, I would create the spend in my Sparrow wallet, I would then choose you, you're paying him from my

contact list, I'd then message you on Telegram or three and say I'm just about to do a spend to max to pay him back for something I owe him for, can you help me out with the Stonewall X2?

You say yes, you're, you hop onto your Sparrow wallet or your Samurai wallet and you just put your wallet in sort of listed mode and so which is literally a couple of clicks, it's you know, it takes seconds to do and then the spend is coordinated automatically from then on.

Cool, yeah, that's going to mix things up quite a lot, just waiting right for us, is there anything else that we haven't covered? Yeah, is there anything else we haven't covered on here? Any bits we want to go through because this is making it rather difficult and I'm just

thinking my editing is going to be an all day otherwise. Yeah, there's just two, two education pieces that, or articles that wanted to shine a light on. Number one, there's a lady called Elle Moulton or Moulton, I don't know how I probably butchered that name.

She's done, it's a bit of a technical read but I found it really valuable and she's done a deep dive on compact block filters which are a method of how you can use a light client in a sort of privacy preserving way, like you say, very, very technical, it's very technical

read but worthwhile if you're somebody that's sort of happy to sort of get into the weeds a little bit, I found that a really, really good read and the other one is there's a user that goes by the name of JPPH has done a quick guide on how you can verify the dice rolls

when you're generating your seed via dice rolls using seed signer so that's a good one as well. Well, thanks for today, let's hope that next time we have slightly better connection but it's always lovely speaking to you both and I'm very excited about these updates in Sparrow,

I can't wait to get that on the laptop when I finally unbox it and start using it, only a few months to wait now. Yep, thanks for having us again, Max and I'll speak to you all next time.

Cheers. Thanks a lot man.